1870 death of Maria Migliarese

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1870 death of Maria Migliarese

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Can someone please translate this death record. Thank you.

I'm very interested in knowing about where she lived, her parent's info and any other personal data.




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Re: 1870 death of Maria Migliarese

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Record # 41 of 22 June 1870
Death record of Maria Felice Migliarese, 3 years old, born and died in Grottamiranda, daughter of Francesco, flebotomo* and Teresa Adinolfi, peasant

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*this is the Italian word in the record. I’m not sure if this is a phlebotomist or a blood-letter. :)
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Hi

Thank you. He was a phlebotomist but his grandfather was a bloodletter, after being a barber for a time.
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carolc wrote: 21 Feb 2020, 00:23 Hi

Thank you. He was a phlebotomist but his grandfather was a bloodletter, after being a barber for a time.
So what is the difference? I thought they were the same, i.e. a bloodletter and a phlebotomist.

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My understanding of it is that Francesco's grandfather - Raffaele - (who was born in mid 1700s) practiced a medieval form of medical treatment in which the patient had a certain amount of blood drained because it was believed that illness came from a misbalance of the body humours and so to remove some I suppose kind of balanced things out.

Whereas his grandson, the phlebotomist worked in more "modern" times and withdrew a sample of blood for testing.
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AngelaGrace, I did some checking and your hunch was right. Bloodletting was done via phlebotomy. I don't know why Italian records use two different words for the profession but it is all the same. The grandsons likely were not drawing blood for testing but for the same reason as their ancestors, a misguided way to treat patients by removing blood. I was curious why some records list one relative's profession as a barber and then in another that same person is a phlebotomist. This might answer that question:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24995453
Bloodletting was a practice favoured by doctors and barber-surgeons for many centuries, and is now, perhaps surprisingly, still employed for a few specific indications. The effectiveness of bloodletting for treating diseases such as pneumonia was convincingly challenged in the mid-nineteenth century, but medical conservatism ensured the practice continued well into the twentieth century. As late as 1942, a famous medical textbook considered bloodletting appropriate treatment for pneumonia.
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carolc wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 14:02 AngelaGrace, I did some checking and your hunch was right. Bloodletting was done via phlebotomy. I don't know why Italian records use two different words for the profession but it is all the same. The grandsons likely were not drawing blood for testing but for the same reason as their ancestors, a misguided way to treat patients by removing blood. I was curious why some records list one relative's profession as a barber and then in another that same person is a phlebotomist. This might answer that question:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24995453
Bloodletting was a practice favoured by doctors and barber-surgeons for many centuries, and is now, perhaps surprisingly, still employed for a few specific indications. The effectiveness of bloodletting for treating diseases such as pneumonia was convincingly challenged in the mid-nineteenth century, but medical conservatism ensured the practice continued well into the twentieth century. As late as 1942, a famous medical textbook considered bloodletting appropriate treatment for pneumonia.
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Yes, barbers did draw blood, and (though that might seem rude and unhygienic nowadays) used leeches to do it.
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