Question About Antenati System

[Belsitoj]

Hopefully this question makes sense. It looks like the Antenati site has been changed and the Links to my ancestors that others posted for me here on Italiangeneilogy no longer work. I started searching(painfully) for my ancestor's records to get the new links. I found one of my ancestor's marriage certificate and tried to copy the web address for that specific page so I could add it to the Familysearch source(page 166 document #149). When I go into that link though it pulls up the beginning of the book, not the specific record (I have to page through the whole thing again to get to the specific record). Is there a way with the new system to get a link so you can go directly to the page?

This is the address that I copied thinking it would be my ancestor's record(Vincenzo Belsito marriage to Agostina LaDuca). To find them I have to scroll to page 166.

https://www.antenati.san.beniculturali. ... d=18312430

Thanks
Joe

[AngelaGrace56]

Try right clicking on the image, then clicking on "open in new tab" and then copying that image.

Angela

[Belsitoj]

Thanks Angela. I can copy the image but I was hoping to get the "link" of the image in the database for the specific page (like you did when you originally sent me the marriage information for Vincenzo Belsito and Agostina La Duca). I added that link you sent back then to Familysearch but it no longer works. I will just add the copied documents. Maybe with their new system that can't be done. Joe

[AngelaGrace56]

I think the new antenati site is still a work in progress. It's probably a good idea to copy and past the image as urls are subject to change as/when sites update their website. You can try the following link, which you will have to swipe and then post into address bar. It's not perfect though because it can't be enlarged.

blob:null/d8d79f91-0c43-4262-9660-f5fd95762676

Angela

[Belsitoj]

Thanks Angela.

[TerraLavoro]

Further to Angela's point about a work in progress, from Antenati a moment ago:

Avviso agli utenti
La pubblicazione del nuovo Portale ha apportato un significativo miglioramento di tutte le funzionalità e costituisce il presupposto per introdurre anche ulteriori migliorie. Stiamo lavorando e continueremo a farlo, per rendere “Antenati” sempre più fruibile, efficiente e completo.

In particolare:

Stiamo lavorando al tempestivo recupero di tutti gli Archivi di Stato già presenti.
Stiamo verificando la possibilità di ripristinare la funzionalità delle URL precedenti anche nel nuovo sistema, almeno in via provvisoria.
Stiamo lavorando per ottimizzare l’infrastruttura del Portale.
Stiamo predisponendo degli incontri seminariali, online ed aperti a tutti gli utenti, per migliorare la conoscenza delle funzionalità e degli strumenti implementati con il nuovo rilascio.
In parallelo procederemo con il caricamento progressivo dei nuovi Archivi e con tutti gli obiettivi indicati nella presentazione.

Siamo grati per le centinaia di commenti, suggerimenti e segnalazioni già pervenuti e per quelli che giungeranno, che costituiranno una guida utile per il nostro lavoro.

[AngelaGrace56]

Thanks Angela.

Your welcome. Someone else my other some other ideas.

I just wanted to mention something about Family Search Trees. Be aware that anyone can come along and add information to it or delete information - the information might be right, which is great, but it can also be wrong. (I noticed last week when I was helping someone, and reviewed their sources, that someone's grandmother was a 3 month old baby!!!) Normally you should get notification if someone has edited your tree.

Angela

[AngelaGrace56]

Further to Angela's point about a work in progress, from Antenati a moment ago:

Avviso agli utenti
La pubblicazione del nuovo Portale ha apportato un significativo miglioramento di tutte le funzionalità e costituisce il presupposto per introdurre anche ulteriori migliorie. Stiamo lavorando e continueremo a farlo, per rendere “Antenati” sempre più fruibile, efficiente e completo.

In particolare:

Stiamo lavorando al tempestivo recupero di tutti gli Archivi di Stato già presenti.
Stiamo verificando la possibilità di ripristinare la funzionalità delle URL precedenti anche nel nuovo sistema, almeno in via provvisoria.
Stiamo lavorando per ottimizzare l’infrastruttura del Portale.
Stiamo predisponendo degli incontri seminariali, online ed aperti a tutti gli utenti, per migliorare la conoscenza delle funzionalità e degli strumenti implementati con il nuovo rilascio.
In parallelo procederemo con il caricamento progressivo dei nuovi Archivi e con tutti gli obiettivi indicati nella presentazione.

Siamo grati per le centinaia di commenti, suggerimenti e segnalazioni già pervenuti e per quelli che giungeranno, che costituiranno una guida utile per il nostro lavoro.

Thanks for posting this TerraLavoro. I also read this notification earlier in the day and was going to post it on the "somewhat heated" forum, and then "chickened out". You're probably braver than me - I'll let you do it if you like

I thought this was interesting "We are investigating the possibility of restoring the functionality of the previous URLs to the new system as well, at least temporarily." ..... so we will just have access to the old urls for a time?

(With my own research I've always copied and pasted the actual images, so I'm happy about that, except, just recently I was working on a project working through five years of processetti, and because I wanted to find answers quickly, I only linked the images, but I did extract the vital info from the records, so hopefully it won't take too long to go back ad relocate the images. Live and learn!!!)

Angela

[TerraLavoro]

@Angela, I posted it as much to show that the Antenati administrators must be dealing with an enormous amount of blowback (and not just from the few "grouchies" that we know and love on this forum) to be out so soon with this announcement.

Guess we'll see how it all shakes out, but I'll ad that personally, I never use only page links in my research, as I am a fan of high resolution images whenever I can grab them.

I hope that we we'll all have the ability to save quality images from the Antenati site at some point in the near future, as well as having a patch to the old links for those who need it.

[MarcuccioV]

The new platform is not terrible where it comes to research. I've "learned" the new system well enough now to actually find things faster than with the old platform. There is a 'thumbnail' button on each volume that I have gotten very good at -- especially if looking for indices.

If you recorded dates from your old research, finding the same pages again quickly shouldn't pose too much of a problem...

[teckat]

Antenati should have provided some type of notice on changes, and how they would reflect on your saved source links in Ancestry. (:-((
There are probably hundereds of thousands of Ancestry tree source links left in a state NULL.


Hopefully they will work out a fix.

[MarcuccioV]

Antenati should have provided some type of notice on changes, and how they would reflect on your saved source links in Ancestry. (:-((
There are probably hundereds of thousands of Ancestry tree source links left in a state NULL.


Hopefully they will work out a fix.

Hindsight of course is 20/20. I believe the best all-around solution (moving forward) is any time you find a relevant record that you plan to add to a tree (such as Ancestry), save it to your hard drive or a thumb drive as a PDF or JPEG so you will always have access to it. Referring simply to a link is risky, at best.

But we've all been guilty of similar at one point or the other. Live and learn, as they say...

[teckat]

Thanks, I JPEG all records, but the links were a quick way to years for further searches. Cuts down on time needed for additional searches.


Nick

[MarcuccioV]

Thanks, I JPEG all records, but the links were a quick way to years for further searches. Cuts down on time needed for additional searches.


Nick

It's all about balancing the benefits vs the risks. We've all been there.