Antonio Marotta and Rosa Santabarbera Records

[FMMarotta]

While researching the birth record of Antonio Marotta, born 1849, I was provide the link to his marriage to Rosa Santabarbera in 1876. I found a second marriage record for Antonio Marotta in 1888 to Luigia de Renzi. I also found a death record for Rosa Santabarbera, in 1877. I am trying to verify that this is the same Antonio Marotta. I can see no reference to Antonio on Rosa's death record. Is there a reference to this being a second marriage for Antonio Marotta on the wedding document? If you could provide the important names and dates on the two documents I would appreciate it. Thank you for your help.

Link to first marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=156644

[darkerhorse]

I don't see any reference to a husband on the death record.

Do you have his death record?

[darkerhorse]

My mistake. Her death record does say married to Antonio Marrotta.

[darkerhorse]

He's living.

[darkerhorse]

Looks like Pasquale is the father of both the Antonio Marrotta on the marrriage record and the Antonio Marrotta on the death record, which suggests it's the same Antonio Marrotta who was married to both women.

We'll see what others say.

[MarcuccioV]

I agree. Same Antonio. First wife Rosa died after one year of marriage (most likely during childbirth). Antonio IS listed as her husband on the death record. Same father, same Antonio. Mystery solved.

[FMMarotta]

Would someone be able to give me a translation of the death record and the second marriage record. Dates for both records, Santabarbera and de Renzi parent names, any ages that are listed. Thank you very much.

Frank

[AngelaGrace56]

Would someone be able to give me a translation of the death record and the second marriage record. . Dates for both records, Santabarbera and de Renzi parent names, any ages that are listed. Thank you very much.

Frank

Frank, to prevent duplication of efforts, please check the following thread for the translation of the 1888 Marriage Record. We’ve previously done quite a lot of work on this topic and established that this was a second marriage for your Antonio Marotta through locating the Marriage Pubblication. which often has added info.
https://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/ ... ra#p258370

Angela

[FMMarotta]

Thank you (everyone) for your help. Sorry if I posted twice on the same topic. The death record for Rosa Santabarbera is new. Can anyone provide some details on her death record.

Frank

[AngelaGrace56]

Thank you (everyone) for your help. Sorry if I posted twice on the same topic. The death record for Rosa Santabarbera is new. Can anyone provide some details on her death record.

Frank

It's okay Frank, it happens!!! You are not the first to do so and I doubt you be the last. Lucky for me I have a (mostly) good memory.

Here's the death record. I believe she died in 1877 not 1887.

Death No 23?: Rosa Santabarbera

Squille: 19 December 1887 (I’m not reading 1877)

It was reported that Rosa Santabarbara, 30 yo, contadina, resident of this town, but born in Piana di Caiazzo, the daughter of (parents names not given), but they were living in Piana di Caiazzo and both contadini. She was the wife of Antonio Marotta, son of Pasquale (Marotta). She died at 3 am, the same day in the house in Marrochelle, no number given.

Angela

[FMMarotta]

Thank you again Angela.

Frank

[FMMarotta]

Angela, I think I have things straight now. I did post twice by accident and also type in Rosa's death as 1877 instead of 1887. Antonio Marotta's first marriage to Rosa Santabarbera ( age 21 ) was in 1876. Rosa Santabarbera died in December of 1887 at the age of 30. Antonio Marotta's second marriage in 1888 was to Luigia de Renzi. I have found some of his children with Luigia di Renzi. I will try to find children from Antonio's first marriage to Rosa Santabarbera. Again, thanks for your patience.

[AngelaGrace56]

Here's the death record. I believe she died in 1887 not 1877.

Death No 23?: Rosa Santabarbera

Squille: 19 December 1887 (I’m not reading 1877)

Angela
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Whoops, I was in such a hurry to get out the door yesterday that I converted the years. But I'm sure it was very clear from my translation of the record what I intended.

Angela

[AngelaGrace56]

Angela, I think I have things straight now. I did post twice by accident and also type in Rosa's death as 1877 instead of 1887. Antonio Marotta's first marriage to Rosa Santabarbera ( age 21 ) was in 1876. Rosa Santabarbera died in December of 1887 at the age of 30. Antonio Marotta's second marriage in 1888 was to Luigia de Renzi. I have found some of his children with Luigia di Renzi. I will try to find children from Antonio's first marriage to Rosa Santabarbera. Again, thanks for your patience.

All good!!!! Yes, you've got it, exactly.


Edit to Add:

Here is the link which includes the translation of Antonio and Rosa Santabarbera's Marriage Record, in case you wanted to keep all the links together for future reference: https://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/ ... ra#p328565

Also, I was going to mention that when looking for further records relating to Luigia de Renzi and Antonio, beware that Luigia and Luisa are sometimes used interchangeably, and I think I may have seen this in one of the records relating to them (i.e. that she was referred to as Luisa? Anyway, just something to be aware of.

Angela

[FMMarotta]

Angela and other translation contributors. Thank you for helping me with my latest mystery about the Marotta family. With your help and suggestions I found that Rosa Santabarbara had four children with Antonio Marotta. Twin boys Francesco and Domenico born in 1877, a daughter Luigia born in 1884 and a daughter Giroloma born in November of 1887. Rosa died at the age of 31 in December of 1887, probably from complications of child birth as was suggested by a forum member. With a newborn child and three other children under 11 years of age, Antonio married a second time to Louisa Renzi. Another five children followed with his marriage to Louisa. This forum is great! I will continue to search for family records and with your help continue to fill in my family history.

Many Thanks
Frank