Massanelli Ancestors

[chrisdamato]

How old was the daughter Giovanna when they arrived in 1892? Giovanna was born in 1877, so it may be her. The 1900 census indicates that Antonette came with them. I can't imagine a 3yr old going separately.

[maestra36]

Giovanna was 15 on the passenger list (meaning she was born in 1877). It says she was Rosa Esposito's daughter, but Giovanna's last name is not given on the manifest. These people were from the same town as Antonette. I think the fact that they are separated on the passenger list does not mean that they weren't traveling together. In my own ancestry, I have a child on a passenger list traveling with his mother and sister and he was listed on the same page but at the bottom of the page whereas they were at the top. The only difference was that they arrived in 1903 and their passenger list had more information than the 1892 one and specifically said he was traveling with the people at the top of the page. Also, if you send for a copy of Giovanna's marriage record from the NYC Municipal archives (you can order it right online from the website which I gave you with the certificate number that I gave you), you should get the name of her parents on it, including her mother's maiden name. Her mother's maiden name may be misspelled on the marriage certificate, but maybe not. It's a chance you have to take.

[chrisdamato]

Could this be my 2nd Great Grandmother Rosa Esposito? The birth matches, but her manifest indicated she was from Auzi. Does the town listed on this record fall within or near Auzi???

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/ ... esults.asp

[liviomoreno]

Auzi does not exist as town or village. Also keep in mind that Esposito is a very common surname. Could you please post the manifest so that we can help you to understand the place of birth

[liviomoreno]

Could be Anzi, Province of Potenza, Basilicata region...

[maestra36]

I am thinking Auzia (Algeria) possibly. Maybe someone can upload an image of the manifest. Also the passengers on this list are in alphabetical order, according to last name, which accounts for why the child Antonietta is separated from the mother on the manifest. Giovanna's last name is not on the manifest being the reason she is below the mother Rosa Esposito on the manifest.

On www.stevemorse.org-missing manifests option-passenger list can be saved as a jpeg file by putting in the following:

June 13, 1892 M237 roll 591 frame 624 for Rosa and Giovanna and frame 626 for Antonietta.

[maestra36]

Currently the surname Massanello exists in the province of Savona in northwest Italy.

[liviomoreno]

Here is the manifest for Rosa Esposito and her daughter Giovanna, line 160
http://yfrog.com/78espositoj

I would say ANZI, Basilicata...

[chrisdamato]

I'm not quite sure what the real spelling of her married name is. It was always thought to be Massanelli. I saw it written as Massanello, Massinile, and Maranello

[maestra36]

As to the original spelling of the surname, you will never know that information from U.S. records. The town of Anzi in Potenza Province has microfilmed records which go from 1809 to 1910. These would have to be rented through a local LDS family history. Seeing the records from the town would indicate to you the spelling of the surname used in that town. On U.S. records, you will find the surname varying in spelling. Therefore to search for records of these people in the U.S., you have to do all kinds of sound searches of the surname.

[chrisdamato]

I just received Rose (Esposito) Massanelli's death certificate from NYC. No father is listed. Her mother's maiden name was Rosa La Grotta. I don't have vital dates for the mother, so I did a generic search on the LDS website and through Ancestry.com. I also checked NYC death records. All came up empty.

Are there any other places I can try???

[PeterTimber]

There is a Rosa Lagrotta who was born in New Jersey in 1891 and entered the USA as a native born US citizen (New jersey birth) in 1922 at age 31 and single. This maybe the person you are seeking. Go to the www.ellisisland.org website for her arrival and destination information on the ships manifest which you may recognize to be certain that she is who you are seeking. =Peter=

[chrisdamato]

My Rosa LaGrotta would have been born in the early 1800's. Rosa's daughter Rose Massanelli was born in 1846 in Italy. I estimated that Rosa was probably born around 1820-25. I'm only going by the name listed on the death certificate.

[chrisdamato]

Ok, I haven't updated everyone in awhile but I have more information that makes things even crazier, if that's even possible.

Rosa Missanelli b. 1846 d. 1922 - death certificate lists no father and mother Rosa La Grotta. She had 3 daughters, Carmela, Giovanna, and Antonietta. They were all about 10 years apart and I have not found any records of other children born in Anzi.

Carmela Missanelli b. 1867 to unknown father. Her marriage record also lists father as unknown and mother as Rosa Missanelli. Her NYC death record lists father as Julio Massinelli.

Giovanna Missanelli born around 1877. No birth record found. Marriage record lists father as Alfonso and mother as Rosa Massanello. NYC death record lists father as Joseph Masarello and mother as Rosa Masarello.

Antonietta Missanelli born 1888. Birth record lists father incognito and mother Rosa Missanelli. Marriage record lists her name as Antonietta Aragusa, father as Francesco, mother as Rosa Massanelli. NYC death certificate lists father as Frank Petro and mother as Rose Romo or Romu.

HELP!!!!

[Jennifer Massanelli]

I am a Massanelli myself and stumbled upon this post by accident. I looked up the name “massanelli” via castlegarden.org and did see a Rosa Massanelli listed as having arrived in 1906 at the age of 45. All of the details of her background are in the link below such as where she was traveling to, occupation, where she was traveling from, etc. Hope this helps! http://www.castlegarden.org/quick_searc ... id=9591552