Thank you James! I did not know how to find the churchbooks on LDS so your link was a big help. I guess Battesimi is Baptism. I found the churchbooks are alphabetic, and are they sorted after the fathers first name? I have never read Italian churchbooks before, so I would be happy if you could explain to me how they are organized, how to find names, years and dates.
Sven
Trayna from Italy lived in New York
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Depending on the time frame you are working with, the indexes might be by the first name of the subject, or after about 1820 by surname.
Each book will contain an alphabetical index at either the beginning or the end. The index is not in alphabetical order, but rather (typically) sequential by page. So .. all the "A" names will be in one section, but will start from the beginning and run to the end of book.
If you need more help, I'd be glad to get you started if you give me a name and approximate year of birth. The great thing also about these Prizzi records is that the priests created genealogical registers which they used to document the various familial relationships between spouses so that the proper dispensations could be issued for their marriage to occur. I have never seen this before!
Each book will contain an alphabetical index at either the beginning or the end. The index is not in alphabetical order, but rather (typically) sequential by page. So .. all the "A" names will be in one section, but will start from the beginning and run to the end of book.
If you need more help, I'd be glad to get you started if you give me a name and approximate year of birth. The great thing also about these Prizzi records is that the priests created genealogical registers which they used to document the various familial relationships between spouses so that the proper dispensations could be issued for their marriage to occur. I have never seen this before!
Re: Trayna from Italy lived in New York
My family in Norway lost contact with my uncle and his family after Marie died in 1981 (my uncle died in 1960). I know they had 2 boys, which I have not been able to locate. But I am curios about my uncle and aunt. I found it strange he married an italian girl. I thought the "nations" more or less kept the marriages between themselves (and my uncle was not a catholic, as far as I know), or am I mistaken?
I have my aunts Application for Social Security Account Number, and this says her father is William Trayna and the mother is Anna Gordano.
Sven
A summary of the messages in this topic:
My uncle Reidar Jansen was married to an italian girl, Marie Anna Trayna, b. April 12, 1906 in New York, d. Dec. 1981 New York.
From Suanj:
I found the birthdate of :
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about William Trayna
Name: William Trayna
City: Brooklyn
County: Kings
State: New York
Birth Date: 13 Dec 1879
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1754500
DraftBoard: 60
the wife was Gaetana (first name).. no italian birth town mentioned...
however I believe that the first name, William, was no the italian first name... William imm. in 1902 and I found only a TRAINA ( right spell) abt
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Vito Traina
Name: Vito Traina
Arrival Date: 14 Jul 1902
Birth Year: abt 1880
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race /Nationality: Italian
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Palatia
coming from Prizzi town, Sicily, IT;
From Maestra36:
Groom's Name: Vito Traina
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Gaetana Giordano
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 24 Oct 1903
Marriage Place: Manhattan, New York, New York
Groom's Father's Name: Girolamo
Groom's Mother's Name: Giovanna ...
Bride's Father's Name: Gioachino
Bride's Mother's Name: Domenica Murateri
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00626-6
System Origin: New_York-ODM
Source Film Number: 1570987
Reference Number:
Collection: New York Marriages, 1686-1980
I have my aunts Application for Social Security Account Number, and this says her father is William Trayna and the mother is Anna Gordano.
Sven
A summary of the messages in this topic:
My uncle Reidar Jansen was married to an italian girl, Marie Anna Trayna, b. April 12, 1906 in New York, d. Dec. 1981 New York.
From Suanj:
I found the birthdate of :
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about William Trayna
Name: William Trayna
City: Brooklyn
County: Kings
State: New York
Birth Date: 13 Dec 1879
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1754500
DraftBoard: 60
the wife was Gaetana (first name).. no italian birth town mentioned...
however I believe that the first name, William, was no the italian first name... William imm. in 1902 and I found only a TRAINA ( right spell) abt
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Vito Traina
Name: Vito Traina
Arrival Date: 14 Jul 1902
Birth Year: abt 1880
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race /Nationality: Italian
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Palatia
coming from Prizzi town, Sicily, IT;
From Maestra36:
Groom's Name: Vito Traina
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Gaetana Giordano
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 24 Oct 1903
Marriage Place: Manhattan, New York, New York
Groom's Father's Name: Girolamo
Groom's Mother's Name: Giovanna ...
Bride's Father's Name: Gioachino
Bride's Mother's Name: Domenica Murateri
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00626-6
System Origin: New_York-ODM
Source Film Number: 1570987
Reference Number:
Collection: New York Marriages, 1686-1980
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Re: Trayna from Italy lived in New York
I found his (Vito's) baptism in Prizzi 7 Dec 1879, son of Girolamo Traina (son of Vito) and his wife Giovanna Randazzo (daughter of Alfonso).
I also found Girolamo's rather detailed marriage entry 6 February 1861 to Giovanna Randazzo
I can email them to you if you send me an email with yours to:
jamesvbianco @ hotmail.com
I also found Girolamo's rather detailed marriage entry 6 February 1861 to Giovanna Randazzo
I can email them to you if you send me an email with yours to:
jamesvbianco @ hotmail.com
Re: Trayna from Italy lived in New York
The great-great grandfather of Vito Traina had two wifes, the first one was the great-great grandmother of Vito (Maria Sinatra) you can see my family tree http://trees.ancestry.it/tree/15478888/ ... 8013062669
with the second (Eugenia Bongiorno) he had another son Vincenzo Aloisio Traina that was the great-great grandfather of my great grandfather Vincenzo http://trees.ancestry.it/tree/15478888/ ... =268952738
with the second (Eugenia Bongiorno) he had another son Vincenzo Aloisio Traina that was the great-great grandfather of my great grandfather Vincenzo http://trees.ancestry.it/tree/15478888/ ... =268952738
