Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
Hi
Looking for information on Salvatore Musumeci who was born in Giarre in 1919, he later went on to marry Agatina Caltabiano and settled in Australia,
Seeking information about Salvatore;s war records.
Looking for information on Salvatore Musumeci who was born in Giarre in 1919, he later went on to marry Agatina Caltabiano and settled in Australia,
Seeking information about Salvatore;s war records.
Re: Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
Military records for the town of Giarre should be housed in the archives of the civil state of the Province of Catania:
Archivio di Stato
Provincia di Catania
Via Vittorio Emanuele 156
95100 Catania, Italy
Archivio di Stato
Provincia di Catania
Via Vittorio Emanuele 156
95100 Catania, Italy
Re: Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
You may find the following information helpful:
Military and Conscription Records
Conscription records also called registri di leva or Liste di estrazione di Leva list all Italian male-born from approximately 1855 (the imposition of the draft – conscription of all 18-years old males – dates back 1865), by year of birth, for each military district. The introduction of these records varies from one area to the other, but mostly they started around 1873, thus including all males born in 1855. However, there are lists that date back to1750.
There are two copies of them; one is held in the military archive of each military district and there it remains, the other is initially held by the Procura della Repubblica (Country Court at province level) and after 75 years, it is sent to the State Archive of the main province. Remember all documents held by the State Archive are available for public consultation. Researching conscription records in the main provinces of the region of origin can be a unique way to start your research that otherwise would have been impossible (as far as town halls and parishes are concerned, you MUST know the comune of origin of your ancestor).
These records contain personal data that cannot be found in any other source, such as:
· Height
· Size of the chest
· Color and form of hair, face, nose, and chin
· Eye color
· Skin color
· Condition of the teeth,
· Birthmarks, if any
In addition, you will be able to find the following vital information:
· Draftee’s full name
· His parents’ names
· His place of birth
· His profession
· His education (whether he was able to read and write or not)
· Ability to perform military services
· Date the service began
Among the military records, you can find:
Registro dei fogli matricolari (Record of the draftee curriculum) records all the developments in the military career, from promotions to changes in the status. Many of those who had already migrated to other countries and were called to serve the Italian army during the World War I chose not to return and were labeled deserters on their military curriculum.
With the foglio matricolare, another record rich in genealogical information, called foglio di congedo illimitato (discharge record) through which a person was discharged from military service. It contains a lot of information that was already states in the conscription record, such as vital information, the parents’ names, and description of the physical appearance.
Arruolamento e prima venuta alle armi (conscription and first mobilization) documented when a person was drafted and the length of his service with information also on war campaigns and medals awarded.
Military and Conscription Records
Conscription records also called registri di leva or Liste di estrazione di Leva list all Italian male-born from approximately 1855 (the imposition of the draft – conscription of all 18-years old males – dates back 1865), by year of birth, for each military district. The introduction of these records varies from one area to the other, but mostly they started around 1873, thus including all males born in 1855. However, there are lists that date back to1750.
There are two copies of them; one is held in the military archive of each military district and there it remains, the other is initially held by the Procura della Repubblica (Country Court at province level) and after 75 years, it is sent to the State Archive of the main province. Remember all documents held by the State Archive are available for public consultation. Researching conscription records in the main provinces of the region of origin can be a unique way to start your research that otherwise would have been impossible (as far as town halls and parishes are concerned, you MUST know the comune of origin of your ancestor).
These records contain personal data that cannot be found in any other source, such as:
· Height
· Size of the chest
· Color and form of hair, face, nose, and chin
· Eye color
· Skin color
· Condition of the teeth,
· Birthmarks, if any
In addition, you will be able to find the following vital information:
· Draftee’s full name
· His parents’ names
· His place of birth
· His profession
· His education (whether he was able to read and write or not)
· Ability to perform military services
· Date the service began
Among the military records, you can find:
Registro dei fogli matricolari (Record of the draftee curriculum) records all the developments in the military career, from promotions to changes in the status. Many of those who had already migrated to other countries and were called to serve the Italian army during the World War I chose not to return and were labeled deserters on their military curriculum.
With the foglio matricolare, another record rich in genealogical information, called foglio di congedo illimitato (discharge record) through which a person was discharged from military service. It contains a lot of information that was already states in the conscription record, such as vital information, the parents’ names, and description of the physical appearance.
Arruolamento e prima venuta alle armi (conscription and first mobilization) documented when a person was drafted and the length of his service with information also on war campaigns and medals awarded.
Re: Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
I'm linking your other thread here for reference:
Prisoners of war in South Africa
http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... 19476.html
Prisoners of war in South Africa
http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... 19476.html
Re: Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
what other info do you need for Salvatore and Agatina?
Re: Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
Thanks for the information, much appreciated.
Where do I go for marriage and birth records of Salvatore Musumeci.
Where do I go for marriage and birth records of Salvatore Musumeci.
Re: Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
for vital records-the anagrafe or registry office-Agata Fresta
ufficio.anagrafe@comune.giarre.ct.it (no spaces in the email address)-
Ufficio Anagrafe
Comune di Giarre
Via Callipoli 81,
95014 - Giarre (CT)
Italy
ufficio.anagrafe@comune.giarre.ct.it (no spaces in the email address)-
Ufficio Anagrafe
Comune di Giarre
Via Callipoli 81,
95014 - Giarre (CT)
Italy
Re: Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
to help you with emails or letters in Italian, you can refer to the following websites:
www.circolocalabrese.o.../index.asp
www.angelfire.com/ok3/...tters.html
If mailing to the town, it is suggested that you enclose a self-addressed, but not stamped, envelope. Send no money. Towns normally send record copies at no charge, although some are now starting to charge. If the town requires a fee, it will let you know.
www.circolocalabrese.o.../index.asp
www.angelfire.com/ok3/...tters.html
If mailing to the town, it is suggested that you enclose a self-addressed, but not stamped, envelope. Send no money. Towns normally send record copies at no charge, although some are now starting to charge. If the town requires a fee, it will let you know.
Re: Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
Thank you for all the help
I would like to concentrate on finding information on Italian soldiers held in South Africa, maybe there is someone else on these boards who had a similar experience.
I would like to concentrate on finding information on Italian soldiers held in South Africa, maybe there is someone else on these boards who had a similar experience.
Re: Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
Sent out a few private messages asking those members who are familiar with military records to take a look at this for you.
___________________________
"Cambiano i suonatori ma la musica è sempre quella."
"Cambiano i suonatori ma la musica è sempre quella."
Re: Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
Hi wldspirit
Thank you , I hope there is someone who can help.
Melodie dolci sono eterne
Thank you , I hope there is someone who can help.
Melodie dolci sono eterne
Re: Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
Yes, maestra36 gave the right informations.
There is not a war record, there is a military record and a military draft card; the military record contains informations about military service and/or war service;
now the problem is that, from my early experience, Catania State Archive is packing the documents and books, for restoration, so now I dont know when documents would be available to researcher, the archivist suggested me to write again at the end of next january
bye Riccardo
There is not a war record, there is a military record and a military draft card; the military record contains informations about military service and/or war service;
now the problem is that, from my early experience, Catania State Archive is packing the documents and books, for restoration, so now I dont know when documents would be available to researcher, the archivist suggested me to write again at the end of next january
bye Riccardo
giarre wrote:Hi
Looking for information on Salvatore Musumeci who was born in Giarre in 1919, he later went on to marry Agatina Caltabiano and settled in Australia,
Seeking information about Salvatore;s war records.
Re: Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
Thank you so much Riccardo, I was hoping there was a website,
something similar to the one you provided me with where I found Nonno's brother....but very helpful to know the archive will be unavailable.
Hugs,
Lee

something similar to the one you provided me with where I found Nonno's brother....but very helpful to know the archive will be unavailable.
Hugs,
Lee
___________________________
"Cambiano i suonatori ma la musica è sempre quella."
"Cambiano i suonatori ma la musica è sempre quella."
Re: Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
That link about nonno brother is a link about italian death soldiers of WW1 and WW2.
The military records usually are not on line, Catania State archive will finish its restoration and in january our poster may forward the request to have both records, if the military record is not there, it is still kept at Catania military district.
I hope it helps
bye Riccardo
The military records usually are not on line, Catania State archive will finish its restoration and in january our poster may forward the request to have both records, if the military record is not there, it is still kept at Catania military district.
I hope it helps
bye Riccardo
wldspirit wrote:Thank you so much Riccardo, I was hoping there was a website,![]()
something similar to the one you provided me with where I found Nonno's brother....but very helpful to know the archive will be unavailable.
Hugs,
Lee
Re: Salvatore Musumeci of Giarre
Thanks Riccardo and Lee
Every piece of information helps. I will contact the State Archive in Janurary.
Still hoping that someone may have information about Italian prisoners of war in South Africa during WW2.
Every piece of information helps. I will contact the State Archive in Janurary.
Still hoping that someone may have information about Italian prisoners of war in South Africa during WW2.