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Dear Elenuccia,

To add to my above post, can I ask you if in you research of Castelpetroso relatives, have you come across the Petrecca and Tamburri families. Both are from my mothers side and as far as I know they all came from Castelpetroso. I have many names going back quite a few generations but few dates of birth or death.


bye for now,

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Silvana,
The following is some of the collateral part of your family tree.
Vincenzo Giancola (b 1851) had another son, Angelo Alfonso (b April 10, 1883). Giuseppe Giancola (b 1807, he died at 77, not 67)had 7 other children: Vincenzo (b 1850-d 1851), Giovanni (b 1852- d 1853), Maria Giovanna (b 1854), Pasquale (b 1856), Filomena (b 1858), Antonio (b 1859- d 1886), & Nicola Addolorato (b 1863). Domenico Giancola (had 3 other children: Giovanni (b 1803/04- d 1867, his 1st wife being Anna Maria Forte, his 2nd wife, Maria Maddalena Forte), Martino (b 1809/10- d 1882, wed to Antonia Armenti), & Daniele Davide (b 1813/14- d 1888, wed to Angela Maria Vecchiarelli). As for the Palumbo side, Giovanni Palumbo (b 1775/76-d 1846)had 2 other daughters: Caterina (b 1818- d 1822) & Clementina (b 1815, wed to Luigi Forte.) The notary, Don Pasquale Palumbowas also the father of Vincenzo, a priest (b 1778/79- d 1849) & Maria Maddalena (b 1782/83- d 1864, wed to Pietropaolo Ferrara (b 1789/90- d 1864). I also have a Pizzi ancestor (Candida (b 1685?) and have been told that Pizzi is a Macchiagodena (a town nearby) surname. I have not been able to trace her further yet. I continue to compile data of Castelpetroso and might be able to help you fill more of the gaps in the future. Surely others can help you, too. For example, Ferrara family investigators will surely know more about Vincenza Ferrara. There were not that many in Castelpetroso.Cheers from Madrid! :P
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Silvana, just saw your last message and I do have some information of the Petrecca¨s and the Tamburri´s. Do send me the names of the ones you are interested in. :P
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Oh my Elenuccia, I only need to be asked once! Thank you again for your generosity. :D

On my mother side: Maria Petrecca

Father: Adolloratto Petrecca (b1909 d 6/1/1940), his father was Angelo Petrecca, mother Giovannina Arcaro (d 1941). Angelo Petrecca had a sister Virginia who married an Arcaro & moved to America, his brother Nicola died WW1. Giovannina parents were Filomena Forte (d 1944) and Michele Arcaro. Filomena's father was Pietro Forte.

Mother : Rosa Tamburri (b 1906 ), her parents were Giovanni and Asunta Tamburri, she had a brother Domenico and sister Lucia.

Also, to blend everyone in together (this is a long story) Angelo Petrecca was 1st cousin to a Michael Petrecca, who apparently is my father's true dad. This Michael was married to a his !st cousin Rosina.

Have any of these names come up in your research? I hope I have not made it too confusing.

Awaiting eagerly,
Regards Silvana


ps: I love all the info you have given me, especially because as you say with the Ferrera name there are so many more avenues for me to look at now. :)
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Dear Silvana,
I know you´re anxious, but it took me a while to find Giovannina Arcaro because she is registered as Domenica Giovanna Arcaro (b June 15, 1890.Her father, Michele Arcaro, wed to Filomena Nicolina Forte, was the son of Donato Arcaro. Filomena was the daughter of Pietro Celestino Forte (b May 19, 1831) & Domenica Giovanna Vacca (b Aug,30, 1829). Pietro´s parents were Felice Forte & Anna Pisani (b 1790/91 d May 14, 1864).Anna and her parents, Nicola Pisani & Angela Russo, were almost surely from a different town. (Will be working on the rest.!) May I ask you to do me a big favor? Will you gather all the names, addresses and e-mails of descendents of Castelpetroso whom you know, or know of? I would be so grateful. Please look into my Web Page & use my e-mail, as they might object having their names in Internet. :P
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Dear Elenuccia,

Once again I must offer you my deepest thanks.

In regards to descendants addresses & e-mails, do you mean descendants living in Castelpetroso? In Perth there are many families who immigrated from Castelpetroso.....Vacca, Forte, Notte, Armenti, Petrecca and more distantly related Giancolas. Who are your ancestors and what was the reason for wanting this information? That way I can give you what who need exactly :) I will e-mail you through your website.

Keep well,

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Dear Silvana,
You are absolutely correct in asking why I want information of descendents of Castelpetroso. I should have explained it to you. Several years ago I thought it would be a good idea to organize a Reunion of Descendents of Castelpetroso, in Castelpetroso. After suggesting the idea to Manuela Forte, Vice.President of PROLOCO (a cultural association of the town), and to the Mayor, Dr, Salvatore Forte, they did organize a Reunion for September, 2004. It was wonderfully done and we who attended will never forget those days. Mary Vacca Pegnato and I wrote to several hundred Cifelli´s, Cicchino´s, Arment´s, etc. using the US phone book and choosing addresses where we knew Castelpetroso immmigrants had first settled. We expected many more responses than we got. PROLOCO will organize a second Reunion for the summer of 2006 and I am trying to get in touch with as many descendents of Castelpetroso as possible. (Of course, I mean descendents in other countries.) I realize that Australia is many thousnads of miles away from Castelpetroso, but I´m confident that a group would be interested enough to participate in this very special event. Do look into my Web Page, and especially www.prolococastelpetroso.it.
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Dear Elenuccia,

Sounds wonderful!!

I will get as many contacts as I can, but most would not have e-mail addresses.

Cheers,

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Dear Silvana,
How pleased I would be to have loads of contacts in Australia, for it is not easy to gather a master list of this information. How thankful I would be! I don´t mind mailing by regular post. I have taken these International reunions to heart, as I believe the participants will always cherish this very special, unique event You are now appointed the official representive for the Australian continent!

MAY I TAKE THIS OPORTUNITY TO MAKE A CALL TO ALL DESCENDENTS OF CASTELPETROSO TO CONTACT ME THROUGH MY E-MAIL.

You asked for my relatives of Castelpetroso. I suppose you mean in the past. It´s a long list. We can start with my parents, Eugenio Palumbo & Rosina Vacca (both emigrated to the US), and go on to Forte, Iannone, Gaglia, Bertone, di Luca, Tamburri, di Stefano, Vecchiarelli, Lombardi, Cicchino, di Filippo, Marano. Farro, Petrecca, Pirone, di Francesco, Valentino, Albanese, Ricci, & Notte, up to now. A few were born in nearby towns( Sant´Angelo in Grotte, Macchiagodena, Cantalupo), married Castelpetroso citizens, and lived and died in Castelpetroso.
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Dear "distant cousin" Silvana!
I have discovered a common ancestor: GIUSEPPE PALUMBO (early 1700´s) I descend from his 1st wife, Donata Vacca, and you, from his 2nd wife, Margarita Tamburri. Their son, Donatantonio Palumbo (died Nov, 29, 1843,at age 71) and his wife Francesca Forte were the parents of Anna Maria Palumbo (died Oct. 11, 1862, at age 62), who married Alessandro Vacca(died Sep. 14, 1862, at age 75) and were the parents of Domenica Giovanna Vacca (b Aug 30, 1829 - d Oct. 7, 1869).
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elenuccia wrote:Dear "distant cousin" Silvana!
I have discovered a common ancestor: GIUSEPPE PALUMBO (early 1700´s) I descend from his 1st wife, Donata Vacca, and you, from his 2nd wife, Margarita Tamburri. Their son, Donatantonio Palumbo (died Nov, 29, 1843,at age 71) and his wife Francesca Forte were the parents of Anna Maria Palumbo (died Oct. 11, 1862, at age 62), who married Alessandro Vacca(died Sep. 14, 1862, at age 75) and were the parents of Domenica Giovanna Vacca (b Aug 30, 1829 - d Oct. 7, 1869).
Hello distant cousin,

I am glad to be , even distantly, related to a lovely person as yourself. Thanks for the above information...I eagerly await for any Petrecca and Tamburri contections.


Please let me know if you got my email. I hope it is the information you needed.


cheers Silvana.
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Dear Silvana,

Thanks loads for the information of descendents pf Castelpetroso in Australia. Hope anyone who may read this will send me more names of deescendents of Castelpetroso (in all parts of the world!).

Now let´s try to "clear up" a bit your Petrecca ancestors. As you will see, there are question marks where the information is probable, but not certain
It has not always been easy because, if the following is correct, many did not always use exactly the same name: for instance, Dolorato for Addolorato, Angelo for Pietrangelo, Virginia for Maria Virginia, Nicola for Orazio Nicola, Filomena (or Orazia )for Orazia Filomena, & Giovannina for Domenica Giovanna. Added to the fact that I do not have all the information available! Here goes!

Pietrangelo Petrecca, age 25, entered NYC Mar. 20, 1911 (ship Cincinnati) leaving his wife Giovannina in Castelpetroso. He was going to his cousin Pasquale Palumbo, at 325 Railroad Ave. in Jersey City. (Pasquale Palumbo was my father´s eldest brother!)
Pietrangelo Petrecca, age 35, entered NYC Mar. 22, 1921 (ship Giuseppe Verdi) leaving his wife Giovannina in Caselpetroso. He ws going to his borther-in-law, Felice Forte in Silsworth, Pa. He claims to have been in the US from 1911 to 1913.
He is most surely your ggrandfather "Angelo" Petrecca.

Pietrangelo Petrecca was born Dec. 31, 1885, son of Addolorato Raffaele Petrecca (b Aug. 1849) and Orazia Filomena Iannone(b 1856?)

Addolorato Petrecca was the son of Nicolantonio Petrecca (b June 11, 1814 - d April 01, 1888) and Serafina Vacca (b 1823?)

Nicolantonio Petrecca was the son of Splendiano Petrecca (b 1773/74 - d Nov. 11, 1851) and Giacinta Cifelli ( b 1786/87 - d Jan. 15, 1854).

Splendiano Petrecca wss the son of Pietropaolo Petrecca and Maria di (Santo?). (I strongly suspect that Spleniano´s parents were not born in Castlpetroso.)

Giovanna Giuseppa Iannone was the daughter of Nicola Iannone (d Sep. 28, 1844, at age 43) and Givovanna di Luca.

Nicola Iannone was the son of Antonio Iannone and Serafina Biondi.

Giacinta Cicchino was the daughter of Salvatore Cicchino and Domenica Armenti (¿b 1749/50 - d June 2, 1828?

Pietrangelo Petrecca had at least 5 bothers & sisters.
Maria Bambina (b Jan. 28, 1883 - d Jan. 28, 1883)
Felice Filomena (b June 02, 1884 - d Dec. 5, 1884)
Maria Virgina (b May 29, 1888)
Orazio Nicola (b Apr. 27, 1891)
Domenico Antonio (b Jan 13, 1895)

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Elenuccia!!

I get all flushed with happiness when I get a message from you :D

You have hit the nail on the head with Pietrangelo Petrecca, he sound like my ggrandfather. He did go back and forth to America, working to pay of his farm, but I had thought he had stayed with his sister Virginia Arcaro. His wife was Giovannina or that was the name she was known as. My mother only ever mention Angelos sister Virginia and his brother Nicola who died in WW1.

I have to admit I was a bit lost with:

Giovanna Giuseppa Iannone was the daughter of Nicola Iannone (d Sep. 28, 1844, at age 43) and Givovanna di Luca.

Nicola Iannone was the son of Antonio Iannone and Serafina Biondi.

Giacinta Cicchino was the daughter of Salvatore Cicchino and Domenica Armenti (¿b 1749/50 - d June 2, 1828?

How did they link in? I have missed something.


I hope you get much support in regard to names for descendants of Castelpetroso. There are many wonderful people on this site, as you already know, and they are always passing on information to those who need it.

Cheers Cousin,

Silvana
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Dear cousin Silvana,

Thank you for pointing out the errors in my last message.
1st error: Splendiano Petrecca´s wife was Giacinta Cicchino, not Cifelli.
2nd error Orazia Filomena Iannone´s father was GiovannGiuseppe Iannone and her mother was not Giovanna Giuseppe Iannone. Actually, I didn´t give you her name because I couldn´t make it out very well. ( I believe it was Domenica Cicchino, but I´m only guessing, and this must be exact, not guessing!)

My only excuse for these errors is that it was very late and I was in a hurry to send it all off to you. I´ve checked the rest and it´s O.K. Most be more careful in the future!

As of this moment, I have not receved any new communications from descendents of Castelpetroso. Hope to in the near future. There must be at least several thousands somewhere out there!


By the way, an uncle of my mother, (and brother of Nicolantonio, Domenico, Ruggiero, Pietro Crisologo, & Sabatino Vacca ), emigrated to Argentina and they never heard from him again. His name was either Biase, Addolorato, or Carmine Vacca, born in the late 1800´s. Such a long shot, but it would be fantastic to know of his descendents.
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Hello Forte cousins!

I know this is old but I thought I would try.

My family came from Castelpetroso in the early 1900's. My grandparents were John and Josephine. He had a brother, Addolorato and 2 sisters, Frances and Afsunta.

They came to America at that time. First to Pittsburg PA, then they eventually settled for good in Madison NJ.

I hope someone sees this. I will try e-mail.

Frank Forte
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