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I am new to this process and was hoping for some direction on my search for my grandfather's family. What I know -

Ferdinand Goth - Born 11/6/1903 in Rome. Died 12/23/1992. Emigrated to the US in 1933 (Immig Visa #750).
Father's name Stephen. Older sister's named Linda and Pia.

If anyone can help me get going I'd really appreciate it!
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Italian White Pages
http://www.paginebianche.it/ricerca?qs=Goth&dv=

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passR ... 0235879424&


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KQ43-HYB
United States Census, 1940," Ferdinand Goth, Ward 43, Philadelphia, Philadelphia City, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
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name: Ferdinand Goth
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event: Census
event year: 1940
event place: Ward 43, Philadelphia, Philadelphia City, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
gender: Male
age: 37
marital status: Married
race (original): White
race (standardized): White
relationship to head of household (original): Head
relationship to head of household (standardized): Head
birthplace: Italy
estimated birth year: 1903
residence in 1935: Same House
enumeration district number: 51-1792
family number: 104
sheet number and letter: 5B
line number: 54
nara publication number: T627
nara roll number: 3742
digital folder number: 005456862
image number: 00797
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Ferdinand Goth M 37 Italy
wife Emily Goth F 36 Pennsylvania
daughter Rita Goth F 5 Pennsylvania
Source Citation
"United States Census, 1940," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KQ43-HYB : accessed 09 Aug 2012), Ferdinand Goth, Ward 43, Philadelphia, Philadelphia City, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 51-1792, sheet 5B, family 104, NARA digital publication T627, roll 3742.
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Hi, welcome to the forum :D

Have you noticed that on the second page of the 1933 arrival manfiest for Ferdinando he stated that his nearest relative in Italy was Maria Marangoni ved. (widow) Goth (maybe his mother?) residing in Trevi (Perugia Province - Umbria region)?

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From the 1933 arrival manifest for Ferdinando you can also see that he married Emily Mary Mickumas in Rome on 29 may 1932, she travelled to the U.S. on august 1932, from ancesty.com:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Emily Hary Mickunas
Arrival Date: 8 Aug 1932
Birth Year: 1904
Birth Location: Pennsylvania
Birth Location Other: Philadelphia
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Augustus
Search Ship Database: Search the Augustus in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

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Michael - Thank you for the 1940 Census. That is definitely my family. The Ellis Island listing is not a Goth of whom I am familiar - perhaps a brother or cousin to the line I am following. Ferdinando had only sisters so those remaining in Italy would likely have a married name. I found a reference to I believe a niece, Margherita who married Luciano Fuzzi. Last known address was in Misano Adriatico (Forli). Would you be able to send a white page listing for that name? Many thanks!
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Laura - Thank you for the 2nd page of the manifest for Ferdinand. I had only seen page 1, which had limited information. The maternal name will be very helpful.

It is hard to read on the manifest a marriage location. In a letter I received from my grandfather after I married, he said he and Emily were married in Kaunas, Lithuania by the bishop. If the manifest says Rome, then I have another mystery - maybe a civil ceremony in Rome?

I appreciate the arrival list for Emily that is new information for me.

Thanks for your help!

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http://www.paginebianche.it/ricerca?qs= ... o+%28RN%29
1.
FUZZI ALESSANDRO
47843 Misano Adriatico (RN)



2.
FUZZI LUCIANO
47843 Misano Adriatico (RN)
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Or maybe a religious ceremony in Rome?
REquest the marraige record from Comune di Roma and it will tell you everything. To get a photocopy might be a problem since they require meoney for that and won't accept cash or anything other than a direct deposit into their account via the post office.
Still a certificate will help, just include some photo ID:
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you need to go see someone in the Jesus Christ of Latter day saints public genealogy library for FREE... they will allow you to find the records for free. YOU DO NOT need to be of that faith. I am not, but I go there to find my relatives. I found most of them. I have about another 29more to go... I have last names, SO i got to know who they are or were. You select this in your city... then go see them, they have ancestry.com so you do not have to pay for it. so go already... check on their hours. I have all the records for Palermo sicily area only... not anyplace else they have the rest..
have fun... moonlightskywriter
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Emily Mickunas was my aunt.
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