Need Help on Birth Certificate Translation

[dpv]

I have started investigating a new town and have some questions on the names on this type of certificate. I have chosen one as an example and will be able to decipher (I hope) the rest based on what I learn from this one.

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 5.jpg.html

If you can tell me the father, mother and child's name, that would help. Also if any information on the parents of the father and mother are given, please let me know where. If witnesses and/or those presenting the baby are also available, that would help. I assume the child is Giuseppe Boccia and he was born Jan 4, 1861

Thank you!

Don

[bbivona]

The declarant was Giuseppa Boccia, daughter of Serafino, age 32, midwife
Date of birth January 4, 1861

Mother Maria Miranda
Wife of Pietrantonio Boccia
Age 32
Father Pietrantonio Boccia
Age 32
Child’s name Giuseppe

Witnesses
Antonio Florio, shoemaker, and
Gennaro Prisco

[AngelaGrace56]

The declarant was Giuseppa Boccia, daughter of Serafino, age 32, midwife
Date of birth January 4, 1861

Mother Maria Miranda
Wife of Pietrantonio Boccia
Age 32
Father Pietrantonio Boccia
Age 32
Child’s name Giuseppe

Witnesses
Antonio Florio, shoemaker, and
Gennaro Prisco

I'm understanding the date of birth to be 3 January 1861. In the record I am reading the words "giornata scorsa" which literally would translate to "the last day" so in other words "was born yesterday". Often we see the word "ieri" (yesterday).

I'll just mention that in the column, on the right side of the birth record, are the baptism details. It usually gives the name of the church where the baby was baptised and the date of baptism.

Edit to Add: In the case the baptism took place at the Church of San Giuseppe, and I think that it is says on the day of birth, but the writing isn't clear enough for me to catch the word/s.

Angela

[bbivona]

The declarant was Giuseppa Boccia, daughter of Serafino, age 32, midwife
Date of birth January 4, 1861

Mother Maria Miranda
Wife of Pietrantonio Boccia
Age 32
Father Pietrantonio Boccia
Age 32
Child’s name Giuseppe

Witnesses
Antonio Florio, shoemaker, and
Gennaro Prisco

I'm understanding the date of birth to be 3 January 1861. In the record I am reading the words "giornata scorsa" which literally would translate to "the last day" so in other words "was born yesterday". Often we see the word "ieri" (yesterday).

I'll just mention that in the column, on the right side of the birth record, are the baptism details. It usually gives the name of the church where the baby was baptised and the date of baptism.

Angela

I agree. I read it too quickly and saw "giornata sopra," the day above, but it definitely says "giornata scorsa."

[AngelaGrace56]

The declarant was Giuseppa Boccia, daughter of Serafino, age 32, midwife
Date of birth January 4, 1861

Mother Maria Miranda
Wife of Pietrantonio Boccia
Age 32
Father Pietrantonio Boccia
Age 32
Child’s name Giuseppe

Witnesses
Antonio Florio, shoemaker, and
Gennaro Prisco

I'm understanding the date of birth to be 3 January 1861. In the record I am reading the words "giornata scorsa" which literally would translate to "the last day" so in other words "was born yesterday". Often we see the word "ieri" (yesterday).

I'll just mention that in the column, on the right side of the birth record, are the baptism details. It usually gives the name of the church where the baby was baptised and the date of baptism.

Angela

I agree. I read it too quickly and saw "giornata sopra," the day above, but it definitely say "giornata scorsa."

Okay!!! I was so surprised you missed that and started to second guess myself. Thanks for confirming.

I can't read the word in the Baptism section ......nata? Can you? (referring to date of baptism)

Angela

[bbivona]

I'm guessing "nel giorno successe nata", the day the birth happened. It's not very clear, but the term is consistently used. Then it gets a little clearer later in the year (not much clearer, but a little). Look at this one.
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0

[dpv]

Great. Thank you, all. This helps.

Don

[AngelaGrace56]

I'm guessing "nel giorno successe nata", the day the birth happened. It's not very clear, but the term is consistently used. Then it gets a little clearer later in the year (not much clearer, but a little). Look at this one.
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0

Oh yes. That's exactly it. Thank you. I flicked through some more records also but couldn't decipher the word successe. Thanks again.

Angela

Great. Thank you, all. This helps.

Don

Happy to help.

Angela

[mmogno]

I'm guessing "nel giorno successe nata", the day the birth happened. It's not very clear, but the term is consistently used.
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@bbivona
No. The correct transcription is "nel giorno succennato" = "nel giorno sopra accennato" = the day mentioned above

[bbivona]

I'm guessing "nel giorno successe nata", the day the birth happened. It's not very clear, but the term is consistently used.
...

@bbivona
No. The correct transcription is "nel giorno succennato" = "nel giorno sopra accennato" = the day mentioned above

Ok thanks. That make sense. That's not a term I've heard used, but I'm not a native-speaker.