Research the Antonio Vivona Family tree

[kmmoro19]

I have been researching my genealogy family tree from Sicily, Italy. My grandfather, Antonio Vivona was born in Trapani, Calatafimi Sicily in 1893. He emigrated to America in 1907 I am trying to track family back to Sicily before my grandfather. I would like to know more about their lives in Sicily, When they were born, died, got married and what they did for a living. If anyone can help me with this research, I would be appreciated. You can write me to Dmoro1@yahoo.com. My name is Karen Vivona Moro

[kmmoro19]

How do I get it approved by a moderator?

Karen Vivona Moro

[kmmoro19]

Why cant I get onto this page? It says its only visible by the moderator. How do I get a moderator to approve and how does this site work? I am very confused as top how to work this.

Karen Vivona Moro

[kmmoro19]

VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A REPLY TO THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO DO REASEARCH, BUT I GUESS I CANT USE THIS SITE AS I AM NOT SURE HOW TO USE IT AND NO ONE IS ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS!!

[bbivona]

VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A REPLY TO THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO DO REASEARCH, BUT I GUESS I CANT USE THIS SITE AS I AM NOT SURE HOW TO USE IT AND NO ONE IS ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS!!

No reason to get upset. People post questions here to found out about genealogy and specific families and people that can help respond when they can. Not everyone monitors the board every day. This is not a commercial site and any help you get comes from volunteers who choose to help you in their free time. I had not seen this message before. You might check your other thread in the Italian language and translation section where I responded to your post with some things that I hope might be helpful to you.

[kmmoro19]

Thank you for your reply. I am not sure how this site works. Is there any helpful hints to researching on this site or how to use it I appreciate any information I can get in researching my Vivona Family in Sicily.

Thanks again

Karen Vivona Moro

[bbivona]

As for how it works, it's not a site where data is organized like FamilySearch.org, or Ancestry.com. You can search the posts for a name or keyword, but you'll only get topics previously posted. You might get lucky. You can use the search function at the top of the page and just put in Vivona. It's not a super common name, so the number of hits you'll get is probably manageable. You can also post specific questions about an ancestor and in the Italian language and translation thread you can ask for help translating documents. It helps a bunch for you to give as much info as you have. You gave a name, year of birth and probable location. If you know the specific date, that helps, as in small town Sicily naming patterns often caused there to be several people of the same name, often born within a few years of each other. If you know the name of one or both parents, put that down. If don't know the parents' names but you know siblings names, put that down. If you don't know the parents' names, but know the children's names, put that down. With naming patters, sometimes that helps lead you to the parents. Something posted with minimal info is harder to research and when you post minimal info, you may get fewer people willing to tackle it. That said, I responded to the post you made in the other thread at the link below.
https://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/language/49463

[kmmoro19]

I am still looking for the marriage record for Antonio Vivona and Francesca Arisca. They would be my fourth great grandparents. They probably got married in mid to late 1700"s. Their son Bennedetto ( 3rd great grandfather) was married on September 30, 1804. I believe Francesca was from Alcamo, Sicily but I am not sure if they were married in Trapani, Calatafimi Sicily or Alcamo.. Benedetto was married in Trapani, Calatafimi I believe. I am at a standstill in my research until I can find out more information.

Thanks

[joetucciarone]

Hi Karen,

There are many Italian birth, marriage and death records at this site:

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.it

When you enter the site, click the link that says "SFOGLIA I REGISTRI." You'll see a big list with columns; near the bottom of the 3rd column is "Archivio di Stato di Trapani." After you click on this, another page will open with two choices; choose the one on the left that says "Stato civile della restaurazione." A page with 3 columns will open; at the top of the 2nd column is "Calatafimi(oggi Calatafimi-Segesta)." Clicking that opens a page with only two choices, "Diversi" and "Morti." Unfortunately, there are very few records for this comune at this site.

A few clicks earlier, on the page "Archivio di Stato di Trapani," the other choice is "Stato civile italiano" which takes you to later records. If you click it, a page opens with three columns; the 2nd choice in the 2nd column is "Calatafimi." This will take you to more records ("Nati," "Morti," etc.) dating from 1878 to 1912.

[bbivona]

I am still looking for the marriage record for Antonio Vivona and Francesca Arisca. They would be my fourth great grandparents. They probably got married in mid to late 1700"s. Their son Bennedetto ( 3rd great grandfather) was married on September 30, 1804. I believe Francesca was from Alcamo, Sicily but I am not sure if they were married in Trapani, Calatafimi Sicily or Alcamo.. Benedetto was married in Trapani, Calatafimi I believe. I am at a standstill in my research until I can find out more information.

Thanks

That's way different than the original information you requested regarding the ancestry of Antonio Vivona born in 1893. As I mentioned in the other thread that you started on the same subject at https://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/language/49463
the data seems to indicate that they were in Caltanissetta in the late 1800s, but appeared to have marriages and births in Gibellina earlier.

Something important to understand is that Trapani is a city, a comune, and a province. All the references to Trapani that you mentioned earlier appear to be related to the Province of Trapani, which includes Gibellina, Alcamo, and Calatafimi. I have found nothing in the earlier data that you posted that indicates a tie to the Comune of Trapani. The birth, marriage, and death records are normally recorded in the comune. Benedetto, if married in Calatafimi, would have been married in the comune of Calatafimi, Trapani, not Trapani, Calatafimi. It's an important distinction in that (based on the data you provided earlier) it's unlikely that there are records related to this family in the Comune of Trapani. Mostly you're looking for records in the Comunes of Calatafimi and Gibellina, and, from your latest post, apparently Alcamo.

For records that early, your best results will likely come from church records. The civil records in Sicily generally started somewhere between 1805-1824, depending on the comune.

[kmmoro19]

Yes, I originally requested information on my grandfather, Antonio Vivona born in 1893 in Calatafimi, Trapani, but I am trying to research further .My grandfather immigrated to US in 1907 with his fther Mariano. I found some ancestors on Family Search (marriage records) but I am stuck on my 4th great grandparents, Antonio Vivona and Francesca Arisca. But I believe Francesca Arisca was from Alcamo and I am not sure if they got married there. Most of the marriage records I found were in 2 churches in Calatafimi, Trapani, San Giuliano and San Silvestro. I would also like to find birth nd death records of my ancestors, starting with my grandfather. Not sure how far back I can go. Would like to know a little about them, what they did, how they lived etc.

Thanks for all your help so far.

[bbivona]

Some things that might help find more info on them:

- You have a specific date of marriage for Benedetto, September 30, 1804. What record does this come from? Knowing what document shows this might help find others.
- Do you have names and birth or marriage dates for the children of Benedetto? When they marry there are are documents filed for birth and death records for parents and sometimes grandparents. In quite a few comunes there are online marriage attachments where you can view extracts of these documents for parents and grandparents, so Benedetto's children might lead you to more information on his parents.
- Do you know the names of the churches from which you found the marriage records you reference? I'm not clear on what records you're talking about. You mentioned that they were from two churches, but you mention four cities, so I'm not sure where to look. There are lots of churches in Trapani, and even in a place as small as San Giuliano, there are multiple churches. It would help to know the names and dates of the specific records you have found.

[kmmoro19]

Is there anyway I can attach something to you? I have made an excel sheet on all the marriages I have found on Family Search. That may help you and also see what I have. The 2 churches I have found were San Giulano Martire and San Silvestro di Papa. I am assuming it is in the Calatafimi-Trapani area They have microfilms that I searched through to find the ones that I have. Benedetto Vivona's son was Antonio Vivona and he is married to Leonarda Accardo (2nd great grandparents) They were married in San Giuliano church on October 14, 1828. Thanks for any information you can give me. I really appreciate all you can do.

[bbivona]

Is there anyway I can attach something to you? I have made an excel sheet on all the marriages I have found on Family Search. That may help you and also see what I have. The 2 churches I have found were San Giulano Martire and San Silvestro di Papa. I am assuming it is in the Calatafimi-Trapani area They have microfilms that I searched through to find the ones that I have. Benedetto Vivona's son was Antonio Vivona and he is married to Leonarda Accardo (2nd great grandparents) They were married in San Giuliano church on October 14, 1828. Thanks for any information you can give me. I really appreciate all you can do.

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[kmmoro19]

Did you get my attachment of the research I found? I tried to send you an excel page that I did with the ancestors that I found and of their marriage records. Let me try again


KAREN VIVONA MORO

FATHER SEBASTIAN VIVONA MARRIED JANUARY 7, 1951
MOTHER ADELINE BIUNNO VIVONA
MARRIED NOVEMBER 23, 1919
GRANDFATHER ANTONIO VIVONA
GRANDMOTHER CATHERINE BELLANTONI VIVONA

GREAT GRANDFATHER MARIANO VIVONA MARRIED FEBRUARY 21, 1870
GREAT GRANDMOTHER ANTONINA LAPORTA

2ND GREAT GRANADFATHER ANTONIO VIVONA MARIANO'S PARENTS VIVONA'S PARENTS PARENTS MARRIED OCTOBER 14, 1828
2ND GREAT GRANDMOTHER LEONARDA ACCARDO

2ND GREAT GRANDFATHER SEBASTIANO LAPORTA ANTONINA'S PARENTS A LAPORTA'S PARENTS MARRIED MAY 1, 1848
2ND GREAT GRANDMOTHER CATHERINE GANDOLFO


3RD GREAT GRANDFATHER BENEDETTO VIVONA ANTONIO'S PARENTS VIVONA'S PARENTS MARRIED 1804 SEPTEMBER 30, 1804
3RD GREAT GRANNDMOTHER GRANDMOTHER GIOVANNA LEO

3RD GREAT GRANDFATHER ALESSIO ACCARDO LEONARDA'S PARENTS A ACCARDO'S PARENTS MARRIED 1793 OCTOBER 6, 1793
3RD GREAT GRANDFATHER GRANDMOTHER LEONARDA BALLO

3RD GREAT GRANFATHER GRANDFATHER ANTONIO GANDOLFO CATHERINE GANDOLFO'S PARENTS MARRIED 1759 SEPTEMBER 30, 1817
3RD GREAT GRANDMOTHER GREAT GRANDMOTHER CATHERINE GRAZIA



3RD GREAT GRANDFATHER ANTONIO LAPORTA SEBASTIANO LAPORTA'S PARENTS MARRIED FEBRUARY 8, 1817 8, 1807
3RD GREAT GRAANDMOTHER GRANDMOTHER FRANCISCAE ADRAGNA

4TH GREAT GRANDFATHER MARIANO ACCARDO ALLESSIO ACCARDO'S PARENTS MARRIED 1759 SEPTEMBER 20, 1759
4TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER ANGELICA PAMPALONE

4TH GREAT GANDFATHER GRANDFATHER LEONARDO GANDOLFO ANTONIO'S GANDOLFO'S PARENTS MARRIED APRIL 21, 1783
4TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER CATERINA SIMONE

4TH GREAT GRANDFATHER JOSPEH GRAZIA CATHERINE GRAZIA'S PARENTS MARRIED APRIL 30, 1775
4TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER CATERINA ARUSO LA RUSO

4TH GREAT GRANDFATHER VINCENZO BALLO LEONARDO BALLO'S PARENTS MARRIED JANUARY 15, 1775
4TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER LEONARDA FORTE

4TH GREAT GRANDFATHER ANTONINO LEO
4TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER CAETANA RENDA GIOVANNA LEO'S PARENTS MARRIED 1771 APRIL 18, 1771


4TH GREAT GRANDFATHER ANTONIO VIVONA
4TH GREATGRANDMOTHER FRANCESCA ARISCA BENEDETTO VIVONA'S PARENTS

4TH GREAT GRANDFATHER LEONARDO GANDOLFO ANTONIO GANDOLFO'S PARENTS MARRIED APRIL 21, 1783
4TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER CATERINA SIMONE

4TH GREAT GRANDFATHER GIUSEPPE (JOSEPH) GRAZIA CATERINA GRAZIA'S PARENTS MARRIED APRIL 30, 1775
4TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER CATERINA LA RUSO

4TH GREAT GRANDFATHER VINCENZO LAPORTA ANTONIO LAPORTA'S PARENTS MARRIED APRIL 29, 1770 NOVEMBER 7, 1751
4TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER ANNA MARIE PLACENZA

4TH GREAT GRANDFATHER SEBASTIANO ADRAGNA FRANCISCAE ADRAGNA'S PARENRTS NTS MARRIED APRIL 29, 1770
4TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER GAETANA AQUUELI AQUELI


5TH GREAT GREANDFATHER FILIPPO PAMPALONE MARRIED MARCH 4, 1736
5TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER LEONARDA PANTANO ANGELICA PAMPALONE'S PARENTS


5TH GREAT GRANDFATHER PAULO LEO
5TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER VINCENZA PLACENZA ANTONINO LEO'S PARENTS MARRIED 1729 FEBRUARY 20, 1729

5TH GREAT GRANDFATHER GAETANO RENDA MARRIED NOVEMBER 3, 1737
5TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER GOSEPHE CANGEMI CAETANO RENDA'S PARENTS


5TH GREAT GRANDFATHER ARISCA ?
5TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER ANTONINA VENZA FRANCESCA ARISCA'S PARENTS

5TH GREAT GRAANDFATHER ANTONIO VIVONA
5TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER VINCENZA BOSCO ANTONIO VIVONA'S PARENTS


5TH GREAT GRANDFATHER ANTONIO BALLO MARRIED FEBRUARY 3, 1743
5TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER LEONARDA PIROSA PIROSA VINCENZO BALLO'S PARENTS

5TH GREAT GRANDFATHER VITO FORTE
5TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER ELISABETTA GALLO LEONARDA FORTE'S PARENTS

5TH GREAT GRANDFATHER ALESSIO ACCARDO MARIANO ACCARDO'S PARENTS MARRIED NOVEMBER 30. 1726
5TH GREATGRANDMOTHER ANTOINETTE CAMCEMI TE CANGEMI


5TH GREAT GRANDFATHER NICOLO GRAZIA GIUSEPPE (JOSEPH)'S PARENTS (JOSEPH) GRAZIA'S PARENTS
5TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER VITA GENUA

5TH GREAT GEANDFATHER GRANDFATHER GIROLAMO LA RUSA CATERINA LA RUSA'S PARENTS
5TH GREAT GANDMOTHER CATERINA COSTA

5TH GREAT GRANDFATHER GUISEPPE (JOSEPH) GANDOLFO LEONARDO GANDOLFO'S FO'S PARENTS
5TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER JOSEPHINA MOLINA

5TH GREAT GRANDFATHER ANTONIO SIMONE CATERINA SIMONE'S PARENTS
5TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER VINCENZA AMODEO
(OMIDEI)

6TH GREAT GRANDFATHER ANTONINO ACCARDO ALESSIO ACCARDO'S PARENTS
6TH GREAT GRANDMAOTHER OTHER GIROLAMA GIACALONE


6TH GREAT GRANDFATHER GIOVANNI CANGEMI ANTOINETTE CANGEMI'S PARENTS
6TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER PALMA CASTALANO


6TH GREAT GRANDFATHER MICHEANGELO PAMPALONE PHILLIPO PAMPALONE'S PARENTS
6TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER ANGELICA BARONE


6TH GREAT GRANDFATHER VITO PANTANO LEONARDA PANTAANO'S PARENTS PANTANO,S PARENTS
6TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER FRANCESCA CANGEMI

6TH GREAT GRANDFATHER GIACOMO (JACOBI) RENDA GAETANO RENDA'S PAREBNTS
6TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER ANTONINA MESSINA

6TH GREAT GRAANDFATHER VITO CANGEMI GOSEPHE CANGEMI'S PAREBNTS
6TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER MARIA BOSCAGLIA

6TH GREAT GRANDFATHER LUDAVICO BALLO ANTONIO BALLO'S PARENTS
6TH GREAT GRANDMOTHER VINCENZA ADAMO

6TH GREAT GRANDFATHER SIMONE PROSA IROSA LEONARDA PROSA'S PARENTS
6THGREAT GRANDMOTHER CATARINA RINDELLO