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Ancestry's current reference panel leaves MUCH to be desired. It's great for building a family tree & learning about DNA matches (if you care to do so), but their algorithm for ethnicities is awful.darkerhorse wrote: ↑02 Feb 2022, 19:08 But no one from Sicily in their reference panel.
https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/ ... uage=en_US
Looks like just a parlor game.
As far as a DNA test, I'd consider 23&Me to be best for your situation. Mainly due to the breakdown map (darker shades closest ancestry, lightest most distant). Here is the example for me based on my Italian half:darkerhorse wrote: ↑03 Feb 2022, 13:56 I suppose their Italian category could include some Sicilians but it seems like an oversight, or maybe they know Sicilian ancestry can be too complicated.
I guess the thing to do is to accept that Sicilian can't be separated out by percentage, and live with the percentage breakdown of Italian, Greek, Middle Eastern, North African etc. as your Sicilian ethnicity or origin.
From what I've seen my Y haplogroup has been traced back to Scotland so that won't help.
23&Me has to have a Sicilian reference panel (as well as the other regions) in order to produce such a map. I can only guess that they keep records on the locations of those tested, but that's conjecture on my part.darkerhorse wrote: ↑03 Feb 2022, 16:43 In my case, the paper trail goes back seven generations in Sicily - to the mid-1750s - on virtually all direct ancestors on both sides of my Sicilian paternal family. Almost 100% from the same tow, and all from the same province.
Of course, some or all could have arrived much further back.
In the scheme of things, is that (thoroughbred Sicilian paper trail to the mid-1700s) considered having deep Sicilian roots or recent Sicilian roots?
Would that suggest that I'd likely get 50% Italian (i.e. 100% of paternal side) with no breakdown of previous origins like Greece or Middle East, if all my ancestors have been in Sicily back 7 generations?MarcuccioV wrote: ↑03 Feb 2022, 17:23 Thinking further on the depth principle, I think that's relative. I'd consider 1750's maybe moderate depth.
My father's side on many lines goes back to the 1300's, so that's my base of reference.
That's amazing. Church records?
Keep in mind, after about 5 or 6 generations, you won't show any shared DNA as the percentages are miniscule if not zero...
Some church records, some civil records. Also family trees and written family histories (from past centuries). Mind you these are predominantly UK, Germanic & Scandinavian records which do go back that far in some cases.darkerhorse wrote: ↑03 Feb 2022, 17:33Would that suggest that I'd likely get 50% Italian (i.e. 100% of paternal side) with no breakdown of previous origins like Greece or Middle East, if all my ancestors have been in Sicily back 7 generations?MarcuccioV wrote: ↑03 Feb 2022, 17:23 Thinking further on the depth principle, I think that's relative. I'd consider 1750's maybe moderate depth.
My father's side on many lines goes back to the 1300's, so that's my base of reference.
That's amazing. Church records?
Keep in mind, after about 5 or 6 generations, you won't show any shared DNA as the percentages are miniscule if not zero...
That is, if all my direct ancestors were born and died in Sicily back 7 generations all my present DNA would just be identified as general "Italian".