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Help with handwriting on birth record

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I'm having trouble reading what's written in the right hand margin on my ancestor's birth record. I believe she married Michele Schiralli (and it looks like his name is mentioned) and I see something about 1913 and Bitetto (which is where she was born) and her father's name of Giuseppe but I can't make out the details. I couldn't find any marriage records for 1913 to check out. It's Anna Loverro on the right hand page: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... yJ?lang=en
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My guess is that she married Giuseppe Alfonsi on January 18, 1913 and Michele Schiralli? in 1935.
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But I don't find either marriage record.
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My great great grandfather came to New York in 1909 and on the passenger record it said he was joining his brother in law Michele Schiralli at an address in Manhattan, so that would imply that Anna married Michele before 1909. I'm thinking that the first part says __ 3 Ottobre 903 no.35 da Bitetto ____ Michele Schiralli. (Perhaps no. 35 is the record number in the marriage records for 1903.) think you're right that she then married again in 1913. Unfortunately I can't find marriage records from Bitetto for either year.
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darkerhorse wrote: 14 Jan 2023, 04:27 My guess is that she married Giuseppe Alfonsi on January 18, 1913 and Michele Schiralli? on October 3, 1903, act #35.
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Thank you for confirmation, Livio.
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Here's the 2nd marriage:
18-Jan-1913 Giuseppe Alfonsi and Anna Loverro, Record #4 (right side)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043445
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Here's the Pubblicazioni for the first marriage in 1903. FamilySearch has misattributed the Bitonto marriages [for 1903] to Bitetto for the actual marriages, but the marriage banns are in the right waypoint.

Left side of page, #35

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043445
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Also, starting here at Image 299/483 you can find the Allegati for the marriage. Click forward through each of the 6 image pages that follow to find numerous helpful original documents.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043445

FamilySearch may never fix the 1903 Marriage document link, but with these records, along with the Pubblicazioni, combined with the marriage date disclosure of 3 Oct 1903 on the birth record for Anna, I believe you have everything you need to move forward in your research.

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