Changes to Italian Law on dual passport

[trevisan2]

My Attorney in Italy yesterday told me Italian Court just changed who can qualify for dual citizenship. It’s two persons past who ever was born in Italy.

Also there is a clause of adulthood requirement too.

Also Comuni are starting to charge 250 euros for birth certificates.
Vazzola comune in Feb 1, 2025 changed because they want to slow down the flow of people. I was told that all the comune will follow.

https://www.esteri.it/it/sala_stampa/ar ... sanguinis/

Trevisan2

[trevisan2]

Vazzola Comune updates cost of documents from over the counter.

250 euro for birth certificates
600 euro on other.

Trevisan2

[drewbinsky]

This is a very significant and potentially concerning update for anyone pursuing Italian dual citizenship through jure sanguinis! Thank you for sharing what your attorney has conveyed.

[cedrone]

The decree of March was converted to Law at the end of May.
It is not very easy to read it and understand it.
The main change is that descendants of an Italian emigrated are Italian only for two generations;
that is you are Italian if your grand-father (or -mother) is the person born in Italy and emigrated. He should also have been only Italian at the date of your birth (or at his death).
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There are special rules for minors.

[qualdom]

I can confirm that other comuni are charging much more for birth, marriage, death certificates. I recently ordered a death cert and the price was very high. However, the silver lining is that they seemed to be much more willing to do research (I did not have the exact date of death) and release the death certificate very quickly (within 2 days). I'm willing to pay more if civil records are more accessible.

[mjclayton1]

I, too can now confirm the (massive) fees now being charged for Civil Records over 100 years old. This comes from the Province of Benevento (Santa Croce del Sannio). (AngelaGrace56 - If you don't know this already, you may be especially interested to know this - meaning from this particular comune...).

My actual inquiry/request was for a marriage record from the early 1880's. I had specific names and a very narrow search window. Plus, I offered them an (1886) Atti di Nascita for one of their children (to verify the names of the parents). All of this amounts to little less than "highway robbery" to me and, if nothing else, constitutes a very discouraging development for genealogists - professional, amateur or otherwise.

The text of the message:

Buongiorno

In merito alla sua richiesta, devo informarla che essendo atti che hanno più di cento anni in base alla nuova legge di bilancio 2025, per le richieste iure sanguinis, per estratti, atti o certificati di stato civile pluricentenari c'è da pagare una tariffa che il nostro comune ha adottato in questo modo :

A. Domande di riconoscimento della cittadinanza, con esclusivo riferimento al riconoscimento della cittadinanza italiana “iure sanguinis” (Circolare K.28.1 del 8 aprile 1991): € 500,00;

B. Richieste di certificati o di estratti di stato civile formati da oltre un secolo e relativi a persone diverse dal richiedente: € 250,00;

C. Per le richieste corredate dalla identificazione esatta dell’anno di formazione dell’atto e del nominativo della persona cui l’atto si riferisce, il contributo è ridotto all’importo di € 50,00;

Le lascio le coordinate bancarie del Comune nel caso volesse procedere con l'istanza:


CODICE IBAN

IT28E0503475560000000139936

BIC/SWIFT

BAPPIT21Q95

Nella causale può inserire "Richiesta Estratto o Certificato di Stato Civile pluricentenario"


Distinti Saluti

L'ufficiale di Stato Civile

Il Sindaco

[trevisan2]

In March 2025, I was personally told at the counter of the comune of Vazzola, Treviso that the high prices were to slow down requests for documents.
They are spending so much time on the documents that they can’t get their own work done.
Trevisan2

[mjclayton1]

In March 2025, I was personally told at the counter of the comune of Vazzola, Treviso that the high prices were to slow down requests for documents.
They are spending so much time on the documents that they can’t get their own work done.
Trevisan2

I understand you're only stating the municipalities' position here and not necessarily taking a position either way, but that still isn't acceptable in my book. Unless the requests are a dozen or more per day (say, per comune), I can't see how that sort of thing would impact workers days ("productivity") so detrimentally. At least not to the tune of somehow trying to now justify the exact same work at a $250.00 Euro per request rate. IMO, it's just not right and this edict has recklessly swung in an extreme way in the other direction from consumer/civic friendliness (helpfulness).

[trevisan2]

I believe it’s a complex issue. It’s been building up for at least past 20 years.
I would venture to say there’s at least 10 people coming into the counter each day because every time I go there there’s two or three people in line.

Then there’s many people sending request in the mail because they’re trying to get their citizenship.

Then once Citizenship is obtained, the Comune has to send out voter registration and voting mail to all of that citizens.

The Vittorio Veneto diocese started charging €50 per name researched about 10 years ago. This was because so many Brazilians were writing all of the parishes in the province, not knowing specifically which one it was.

However, there is an Italian website that Italian them themselves can use to download free documents.
I’ll find the link and post it

Trevisan2

[mjclayton1]

Trevisan2 - When you put it in that context it at least makes more sense, but I still do think an interim step (more reasonable cost structure) would've been something that the municipalities could have tried first. Also, maybe there should be a way to separate those who are submitting for genealogical research and those for jure sanguines? Just a thought...

Appreciate your continuing feedback on this subject.

[Kuke698]

Appreciate your continuing feedback on this subject.

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