Children with different last name?

[jamesm113]

I discovered a couple that appears to have several children with different last names than the father (Esposito).

One child has the mother's last name (Migliaccio), a few other children have another last name entirely (Pisani)

Here's a few examples:
Maria Vicenza Migliaccio, born 1815: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... g=en&i=542 / https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 66/0Z1j636
Giuseppe Pisani, born 1818: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 24/wQEG8qJ
Maria Carolina Pisani, born 1821: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 26/wrynd2z

Does anyone know why this would occur?

[darkerhorse]

Esposito is a surname sometimes given to foundlings.

[jamesm113]

Thanks.

In my case, the father's name was Lorezno Esposito, and the mother's name was Mariantonia.

Their first 2 kids were named Esposito, 3rd kid was named Pisani, 4th kid was named Migliaccio, and 5th-9th kids named Pisani.

Were all the Pisani's foundlings? Or the father's actual name was Pisani?

Here they are on Family Search: https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/pe ... s/P4DP-TNY

[AngelaGrace56]

It clearly says on the two records you have posted here (ie 1815 and 1818) that Mariantonia Migliaccio was the "legitimate" wife of Lorenzo Esposito, living with him, and that the children were born in his home, so these children were definitely not foundlings.

The surname "Esposito” which means “exposed” was a name given to children of unknown parents, as you probably know. It's "possible" that Lorenzo himself was a foundling? Locating Lorenzo and Mariantonia's marriage record, his birth record, or death record would help to confirm this? (His marriage record and birth record probably won't be on line.) My thinking is that maybe he didn't want his children growing up with the same stigma, attached to the name Esposito, that he grew up with?

Are you able to post the links to the births of their first two children?

Angela

[jamesm113]

Thanks for your investigation!

His death record does not have any parents listed. I believe it says "incerti genitori" - uncertain parents? https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 47/5vM2pdy

I have not been able to locate a marriage record or a birth record for him, but the death record certain suggests he was a foundling.

Here's the first two children:
Giovanni born 1810: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 61/wWDd8aX
Maria Maddalena born 1812: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 62/w9EM8Kk

Third child, first I found with Pisani:
Emanuele: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 64/5GP8Alv

[AngelaGrace56]

Thanks for your investigation!

His death record does not have any parents listed. I believe it says "incerti genitori" - uncertain parents? https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 47/5vM2pdy

I have not been able to locate a marriage record or a birth record for him, but the death record certain suggests he was a foundling.

Here's the first two children:
Giuseppe Vincenzo born 1811: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 61/wWDd8aX
Maria Maddalena born 1812: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 62/w9EM8Kk

Third child, first I found with Pisani:
Emanuele: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 64/5GP8Alv

Thanks for posting these links, James.

Yes, as you say, Lorenzo Esposito’s Death Record states he was the son of "uncertain parents". This can also mean that the name of the deceased’s parents were unknown to those who reported the death. It states his wife to be Maria Migliaccio, and that he had left four underage children. It doesn’t state where he was born.

Son, Giuseppe Vincenzo’s 1811 record states that he was born from Lorenzo’s legitimate wife Mariantonia Migliaccio as does Maria Maddalena’s 1812 birth and Emanuele Pisani’s 1813 birth. (Mariantonia Migliaccio was 18 yo in 1812 when she birthed Maria Maddalena .)

I'll have a think about all this, or maybe someone else might chime in. My thinking is still that he was born to unknown parents and maybe had been a given hard time about this growing up. Sadly little children with unknown parents were often treated really unkindly etc.

If you have any other records associated with this family that you have queries about just post them here and I'll take a look at them.

Angela

[AngelaGrace56]

James, I’ve located Lorenzo and Antonia Migliaccio’s marriage 1810 marriage record and translated it. It may need some tweaking:

Marriage No 24: Lorenzo Esposito and Antonia Migliaccio
Pozzuoli: 13 May 1810

Appearing before the official were:

Groom: Lorenzo Esposito, 19 yo (completed), underage, bracciale (day labourer), living in this town, Strada San Giacomo, son of "uncertain" parents, and assisted by Signor Domenico di Fraia, son of deceased Gaetano, 53 yo, Nobile (a noble man?), living in this town, Strada Sedile, ​tutore? (tutor?), given from the Signor Giudice di Pace of this Circondario, as per the documents exhibited.

and

Antonia Migliaccio, 16 yo (completed), from Pozzuoli, underage, living in this town, Strada San Giacomo, assisted by her parents, Noe’, 50 yo, Ortolano (Gardener), and Vincenza Police, 50 yo, living in said place.

Then it just mentions when the banns were posted and the other names given there were those present to witness the marriage act. You’ll notice that the name Pisani is a name that appears in the town.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 38/LedYp8y

Angela

[AngelaGrace56]

Please read my two previous posts first if you haven't already done so. Following on from them ...

The processetti (marriage attachments) are on line. They begin here for Lorenzo and (Maria)Antonia's marriage: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 44/wOnrxjJ

It begins with a copy of the marriage record. The next two records are the pubblications which basically repeat the information given on the marriage record, which I have already translated for you.

Page 418 (Lorenzo’s baptism record) is important as it confirms that Lorenzo was left at the wheel. I suggest you post it for translation.
I would also post pages 420, 422, 424, 426 for translation. (I need to go reply to a bunch of emails.)

I’m so excited to find both the marriage record and marriage attachments. Hopefully they might answer some questions for you. Have a wonderful Christmas!!!

Angela

[mmogno]

James, I’ve located Lorenzo and Antonia Migliaccio’s marriage 1810 marriage record and translated it. It may need some tweaking:

Marriage No 24: Lorenzo Esposito and Antonia Migliaccio
Pozzuoli: 13 May 1810

Appearing before the official were:

Groom: Lorenzo Esposito, 19 yo (completed), underage, bracciale (day labourer), living in this town, Strada San Giacomo, son of "uncertain" parents, and assisted by Signor Domenico di Fraia, son of deceased Gaetano, 53 yo, a nobleman by profession, living in this town, Strada Sedile, ​tutore (tutor), given from the Signor Giudice di Pace of this Circondario, as per the documents exhibited (https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 44/wWDdeoB
and
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 44/57pMBeq).

and

Antonia Migliaccio, 16 yo (completed), from Pozzuoli, underage, living in this town, Strada San Giacomo, assisted by her parents, Noe’, 50 yo, Ortolano (Gardener), and Vincenza Police, 50 yo, living in said place, consenting to the act.

Then it just mentions when the banns were posted and the other names given there were those present to witness the marriage act. You’ll notice that the name Pisani is a name that appears in the town.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 38/LedYp8y

Angela

@AngelaGrace56
Nella dichiarazione del consenso al matrimonio dei genitori della sposa, si dice che Lorenzo Esposito è stato allevato e cresciuto a Pozzuoli da Giuseppe Pisano Marciello.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 44/5Kpx8Z3

[AngelaGrace56]

James, I’ve located Lorenzo and Antonia Migliaccio’s marriage 1810 marriage record and translated it. It may need some tweaking:

Marriage No 24: Lorenzo Esposito and Antonia Migliaccio
Pozzuoli: 13 May 1810

Appearing before the official were:

Groom: Lorenzo Esposito, 19 yo (completed), underage, bracciale (day labourer), living in this town, Strada San Giacomo, son of "uncertain" parents, and assisted by Signor Domenico di Fraia, son of deceased Gaetano, 53 yo, a nobleman by profession, living in this town, Strada Sedile, ​tutore (tutor), given from the Signor Giudice di Pace of this Circondario, as per the documents exhibited (https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 44/wWDdeoB
and
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 44/57pMBeq).

and

Antonia Migliaccio, 16 yo (completed), from Pozzuoli, underage, living in this town, Strada San Giacomo, assisted by her parents, Noe’, 50 yo, Ortolano (Gardener), and Vincenza Police, 50 yo, living in said place, consenting to the act.

Then it just mentions when the banns were posted and the other names given there were those present to witness the marriage act. You’ll notice that the name Pisani is a name that appears in the town.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 38/LedYp8y

Angela

@AngelaGrace56
Nella dichiarazione del consenso al matrimonio dei genitori della sposa, si dice che Lorenzo Esposito è stato allevato e cresciuto a Pozzuoli da Giuseppe Pisano Marciello.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 44/5Kpx8Z3

Fantastic!!! Thank you so much G for checking over my translation, and for making the necessary corrections, additions and explanations. I really appreciate it. So now we know where the name Pisano came from and why he named his first son and later his fifth child Giuseppe. An interesting story – a story of redemption for an abandoned child. Thank you for adding to it.

Angela

[jamesm113]

Thank you both for the detailed research.

I'm a little confused by the two marriage records listing Domenico Di Fraia as the guardian vs the Giuseppe Pisano

[mmogno]

Giuseppe Pisano was not Lorenzo's adoptive father. He simply took him into his care and raised him.
Therefore, when Lorenzo wanted to marry while still a minor, the judge appointed Domenico Di Fraia as his guardian to decide whether to allow the marriage.

[jamesm113]

Thank you all and have a Merry Christmas!