Lise: Surname of g g grandfather and missing g grandfather.

[Marcialise]

A boarding house?

[vj]

Looks like 10 Carmine Street!
For the bonus round question:
Now, what is the head of the family's occupation?
vj

"I am a cencus taker for the city of Bufflow.
Our city has groan very fast in recent years and now, in 1865,
it has becum a hard and time consooming job to count all the peephill.
Thare is not meny that can do this werk, as it is necesarie to have a ejucashun,
which a lot of pursons still do not have.
Another atribeart needed for this job is good speling,
for meny of the peephill to be caounted can hardle speek inglish,
let alone spel there name."
anonymous

[Marcialise]

Aaaaah managing a boarding house... did that person only have one section of 69 Mac Dougal Street or the whole building? I'm sorry I've got so many questions!

[Marcialise]

Is this 10 Carmine St... (1910 Census) ?

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1129/10carminedp7.jpg

Maria

wow.. how do you guys manage to find all these records?

Brilliant at locating the relevant data! I admire you all...

[jcsm400]

Looks like 10 Carmine Street!
For the bonus round question:
Now, what is the head of the family's occupation?
vj

"I am a cencus taker for the city of Bufflow.
Our city has groan very fast in recent years and now, in 1865,
it has becum a hard and time consooming job to count all the peephill.
Thare is not meny that can do this werk, as it is necesarie to have a ejucashun,
which a lot of pursons still do not have.
Another atribeart needed for this job is good speling,
for meny of the peephill to be caounted can hardle speek inglish,
let alone spel there name."
anonymous

Good one, Valarie....it's a wonder that we do find people & thanks for "GREAT WORK."

Maria, thanks & same to you for finding 10 Carmine St.....another example of great teamwork.

Answer to Valarie's question.....
MERCHANT .......
Sorry, couldn't help my self.....have no idea on the 2nd part (ubail ligonas??)


jcsm

[mfjp]

Answer to Valarie's question.....
MERCHANT .......
Sorry, couldn't help my self.....have no idea on the 2nd part (ubail ligonas??)


ubail ligonas....

At first I thought it was a merchant for "tail (tile) lignum"

But now I think it is "retail liquor"

Time for the virtual bar.... wooooooo hoooooooooooooo!!

We're talkin about Victor Blotto right???

Anyways... according to a 1900 census record ... he is listed as a RECTOFINER... what the heck is that??

Maria

[vj]

I saw that: rectofiner!
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Back to Lise/Toia
I think we need some more records.
Any chance Lise used to be something else?
Not many folks coming from these 3 locations w/this
name?

vj

[mfjp]

We could see a 2-4 Carmine Street... a census record...
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I'm not on my usual computer... but there is also a "Lise, E"... wife... somewhere in the 10 Carmine Street district...

I am hoping that someone on my other computer didn't shut down my windows...

Maria

hmmm how about DeLise... 2 Lise's from Meano just isn't enough...

[vj]

DeLise, worth a look
Wish the 'town' searches on Ellis didn't take so long.

[mfjp]

Or just Lisi.... there's about 800 of them..

Hey the grey forms are finally not as slow...

Maria

[vj]

This one again, for a minute?

Occupation...

Mosaic Worker... (tile setter... wife mentioned is Emma)

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 0271%2ETIF

First Name: Antonia (should be Antonio...)
Last Name: Lise
Ethnicity: Italy, No. Italy
Last Place of Residence: New York, New York
Date of Arrival: Jul 06, 1908
Age at Arrival: 43y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: New York
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Manifest Line Number: 0008

Maria

1908 Antonia (Antonio) Lise, 43 (1865), mosaic worker
note: Joseph Lise's (b. 1891, tile worker) father Antonio from 1910 census?
- in US 1893-1908
note: where's 1900 census?
- wife Emma Lise 32 (St?) John Street (Place?)
note: possibly New Rochelle?
- born in Belluno
page 1
page 2

[jcsm400]

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[mfjp]

Hi ... found the "Lise" I mentioned earlier... not sure if it is Liri or Lise...

1910 Census record.... see line 3

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9493 ... 910co9.jpg

Note that there is also a sister here named Emilia... no clue at this point who these people are...

Manhattan Ward 15, District 809, page33
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Also sent another poster from this forum ...this same census page.. since he's researching the Cicala family... line 27

Joyce.. you helped Anthony too just today!

Maria...

now to see what vj posted... just got my computer back..

[jcsm400]

Manhattan Ward 15, District 809, page33
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Also sent another poster from this forum ...this same census page.. since he's researching the Cicala family... line 27

Joyce.. you helped Anthony too just today!

Maria...

Marie,

What's the name above this Cicala? Less/Lese?
There is also an Antonio Cicala on Bleecker, age 36.... the one above age 41?

Found your pizza joint (#7 Carmine) in Ward 9, ED 137...seems to be all the odd street numbers....Ward 9, ED 136 has even numbers on Carmine, but doesn't go below the 20's. Actually 7 is lowest I found in the odds, so I'm not sure if there was a 2-4 Carmine.

jcsm

[Marcialise]

This one again, for a minute?

Occupation...

Mosaic Worker... (tile setter... wife mentioned is Emma)

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 0271%2ETIF

Maria

1908 Antonia (Antonio) Lise, 43 (1865), mosaic worker
note: Joseph Lise's (b. 1891, tile worker) father Antonio from 1910 census?
- in US 1893-1908
note: where's 1900 census?
- wife Emma Lise 32 (St?) John Street (Place?)
note: possibly New Rochelle?
- born in Belluno
page 1
page 2

Found a John Street in New York, NY. No so far from Carmine St, Mac Dougal St, etc.

Didn't see the rectofiner since I haven't seen the 1900 census ..