Looking for family from Sulmona

[marilyn65]

I am looking for information on family name Pallozzi from Sulmona Italy. My grandparents came from there. Grandfather's name was Alfredo Pallozzi, great grandfather's name was Raffaele and great great grandfather's name was Nicola. Any information would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks,
Marilyn

[vj]

Hi Marilyn, welcome to the forum !
Did you need help with US or Italy research (or both)?
Thanks!
Valarie
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For reference
possible 1907 manifest
page 2
Nov 1907 SS Canopic, Naples to Boston
Line 26
Alfredo Pallozzi 20 (abt 1887)
- married?
- painter
- in Sulmona, father Raffaele
- destination New York, NY
- in NY 1904-1906
- joining uncle
- born in Sulmona
edit: added
uncle Vincenzo Marinucci??

[marilyn65]

Wow VJ this is great thanks a million. I never knew he had any realitives here. I am sure this is my grandfather as he did come into this country by way of Boston. He then went to Watervliet NY. I tried
How did you find this? I would need help with research on my family from Italy. The only other realitives I know of here in the states is an uncle living upstate in NY. I tried asking him questions several years ago about his parents and he didn't know much as they died when he was young.

[vj]

Hi Marilyn!
The record was on ancestry.com.
Quite a few of us have subscriptions - we can help you look.
(your local library may also have free access)
Once you have birth dates & relationships, we can help direct
you on how to do your research in Italian records.
Valarie

[vj]

For reference:
possible 1930 census
Home in 1930:
2428 4th Ave, rents $25 mo
Watervliet, Albany, New York
Head Alfred Pallozzi 41 (abt 1889) IT
- married age 22
- immig 1903, Na (naturalized)
- painter, house painting
Wife Frances Pallozzi 40 (abt 1890) IT
- immig 1903, Na
Son Ralph Pallozzi 14 (abt 1916) NY
Son Carmen Pallozzi 13 (abt 1917) NY
Son Joseph Pallozzi 10 (abt 1920) NY

[vj]

on ancestry another researcher corrected the family's name
for the 1920 cenus:
Surname: Pallozzi
Correction Type: Transcription Error
Explanation: Correct spelling of name. His parents are Frances and Alfred.
Contributed By: aburock
Contributed On: 9/6/2007

Same family?
possible 1920 census
Home in 1920:
617 19th Street
Watervliet Ward 3, Albany, New York
Alfred Palskil 38
Frances Palskil 30
Ralph Palskil 3
Charles Palskil 2

Note: naturalized in 1918 - if you don’t already have it,
the original Naturalization paperwork can hold some
great family clues

[vj]

from Albany County Naturalizations

Name/ Period/ Nation of Origin/ US Residence/ Date/ Petition No
Pallozi, Alfredo 1906-1991 Italy Watervliet 4/21/1918 1618

And possible military naturalization record
from one-step NY naturalizations

Family Name/ Given Name/ Age/ Birth/ Residence State/ Admission/
Volume Number/ Petition Number/ Locations OS or OM File/
Country of Origin/ Certificate Number/ Repository/ Soundex
Pallozzi Alfred - - - - - - 5,802 - - WW I Camp Dix - - National Archives P420

[vj]

Marilyn,
about your records in Italy:

It appears the Family History Library has a collection of records
from Sulmona on microfilm.
You can order these for a small monthly fee for viewing at
your local Family History Center.

Since the Civil Records only go thru 1865, you may be able
to locate Raffaele & his father Nicolo.
Having their approx birth dates & spouses maiden names would
insure that you had the correct family records…

Place:
Italy, L'Aquila, Sulmona
Topics:
Italy, L'Aquila, Sulmona - Church records
Kirchenbuch, 1820-1823
Italy, L'Aquila, Sulmona - Civil registration
Registri dello stato civile, 1809-1865
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A great place to start:

FamilySearch Home Page
Includes how to find your nearest local Family History Center
and a free genealogy program for downloading
to your computer (PAF) to organize your research.

Italian Record Research from the FamilySearch research guides:
Italy Research Outline
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Three terrific books
to help you find, read & understand your records:

Italian Genealogical Records
How to Use Italian Civil, Ecclesiastical, &
Other Records in Family History Research
By Tafford R Cole
google book link

A Genealogist’s Guide to
Discovering Your Italian Ancestors
How to find and record your unique heritage
By Lynn Nelson
google book link

Finding Italian Roots
By John Philip Colletta, PhD
google book link
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More on the Family History Center

Two very helpful essays from Trish, one of our forum members
(brujaojos):

What is FamilySearch.org
and
Steps for Finding Microfilm at the Family History Center

[marilyn65]

Thank you VJ for the information about the Family History Center. I have looked there in the past but unfortunately I have a problem trying to read the information. When ever I try to look at the information it makes me extreamly sick. I think it has something to do with my motion sickness.

I was wondering could you make out the name of my grandfather's uncle on the ship's manifest as I could not make it out.

I have some information about Raffaele & his father Nicola. I am now trying to find out who Nicola's parents were and also any of their sibblings.

I wish I knew who this Aburock was, since he/she sent in the corrections on the Pallozzi spelling, and how I could get in touch with that person.

[Biff83]

Good morning Valarie and Marilyn, and Buon San Valentino!

I also believe the uncle's name on the manifest VJ posted is:
Vincenzo Marinucci

Biff

[vj]

I wish I knew who this Aburock was, since he/she sent in
the corrections on the Pallozzi spelling, and how I could get in touch
with that person.

Marilyn,
I sent them an email thru ancestry.com with a link to this
thread.
Valarie

[vj]

Alfredo’s 1st trip?
1905 manifest
March 1905, SS Canopic, Naples to Boston
Line 2 (transcribed as Sallozzo on ancestry)
Alfredo Pallozzi 16 (abt 1888)
- single
- painter
- last residence Sulmona
- destination NY
- joining uncle Vincenzo Marinucci at 44 Mulberry St

[marilyn65]

Thank you Biff and Valerie for all of this great information. According to my grandmother's death certificate her mother's maiden name was Marinucci. So this could have been my grandmother's uncle.

Wow, this is so exciting. I guess now I need to see if I can find any Marinucci realitives still living in this country, as well as Italy.

Marilyn

[vj]

Marilyn,
Just in case you don’t have all 3 pages of Francesca’s
manifest.
Valarie

page 1
page 2
line 1 detained page
12 Nov 1914 Duca D’ Aosta Naploi to NY
Line 13
Francesca Pallozzi 25 (abt 1889)
- single
- Dressm
- in Sulmona, father Giuseppe
- destination Watervliet
- passage paid by husband (see spec inq page)
- joining friend Annina Ramunno Oxxxeyville
2604 3rd Ave Watervliet, NY
Note: husb Pallozzi Alfredo is crossed off
- born in Sulmona

Cause of detention:
To be married
Disposition:
Frd (prob friend) Mrs Annina Ramunno 2604 3rd Ave Watervliet NY
Discharged on the 13th

[vj]

Marilyn,
I heard back from 'aburock' - Amy
I don't think she'd mind:

Hi there -- I was researching the Pallozzi family for my friend, Lori.
Lori's mom's dad was a Pallozzi. I did the research a while ago --
I can't recall if her dad was Ralph.
I just left Lori a message to ask her.
I'd be happy to join the genealogy forum, but is there something
specific that you'd like me to address there?
Thanks, Amy

I did send Amy a note back thanking her & inviting her to join in!
Valarie