Militello / Bosco Detroit / Bay City Michigan

[pink67]

I know my Grandfather Vincenzo went to Boston when he came to America and he doesn't show up in Michigan until the 1930 Census in Bay City

Hi Lois,

you already have the 1920 census:

Here is the 1920 census:

from Ancestry.com:

1920 United States Federal Census
about James Melitello
Name: James Melitello
Home in 1920: Bay Ward 1, Bay, Michigan
Age: 27 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1909
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Image: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Melitello 27 head, born in IT
Mary Melitello 28 wife, born in FRANCE
Tony Melitello 2 2/12 son, born in MI
Mary Melitello 1 1/12 daughter, born in MI
Felix Bosco 21 brother in law, born in FRANCE
Fred Bosco 19 brother in law, born in FRANCE
John Bosco 16 brother in law, born in FRANCE
Joseph Bosco 12 brother in law, born in FRANCE
Tony Bosco 16 brother in law, born in MI
Frank Bosco 1 10/12 brother in law, born in MI

image:
[img=http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5286/m ... 920.th.jpg]

Laura

I found the marriage record for Vincenzo Militello and Rosa Bosco:

Date of marriage January 18, 1919. Vincenzo's father was Santo Militello, mother was Rosalia
Rose's father was Tony and mother Rose.
Both Vincenzo and Rose are listed as born in Italy.

And from the military enlistment for the First World War (date on the document June 1917) you know that on that date he was already in Detroit, living on 249 Nicolet? Avenue...

http://img21.imageshack.us/i/militellowwi.jpg/

Possible 1910 arrival manifest for Vincenzo?

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0027

pge 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0027

single, from Terrasini, going to Boston to join his uncle Vincenzo Frontesi?
Mother in Terrasini Rosalia...

Laura

[LoisM]

Laura,

That 1920 Census is not my Grandpa. I know by all accounts it should be but it isn't him. It is one of his cousins, not him. My grandpa didn't show up in the census until 1930. I had that confirmed by a relative.

The Ellis Island records, Marriage, and the WWI register is all him.

I don't know who the Uncle would be he is joining in Boston and I have wrote to some people there for help.

I was told by some relatives that my grandpa and some of his brothers went to St Louis to work on the railroad. I am not sure what company they worked for but I will try and find out.

You can see the confusion I have. They all came here in 1910 and I loose all track of them until they all show up in the 1930 Census.

Thanks for your help..

Lois M.

[vj]

Laura,
That 1920 Census is not my Grandpa. I know by all accounts it should be but it isn't him. It is one of his cousins, not him. My grandpa didn't show up in the census until 1930. I had that confirmed by a relative...
Lois M.

My Grandma: Rose (Bosco) Militello

Hi Lois !

I was going to help Laura look for your 1920 Militello census, but I'm a bit confused. Maybe you could help?

Do you know who the Tony & Rosela Bosco (and 4 sons) are on the confirmed 1930 census?
They're living in the same house as your grandparents.

On the 1920 census Tony and Rosa (Rosela?) Bosco (and 6 sons) are living with a James and Mary Militello

Thanks! Valarie

---

BOSCO (Family?)

from Laura's census finds:

April 1930
800 Second Street

Tony Bosco 65 IT (abt 1865)
- married age 28
- immig 1913
Rosela Bosco 55 IT (abt 1875)
- married age 17
- immig 1913

sons:
John Bosco 22 France
- immig 1913
Joseph Bosco 21 France
- immig 1913
Anton Bosco 16 MI
- immig 1913
Frank Bosco 12 MI
- immig 1913

living with Jim & Rose Militello
(Rose immig 1913)

Jan 1920
1219 Jackson Street

Tony Bosco 54 IT (abt 1866)
- immig 1912
Rosa Bosco 40 IT (abt 1880)
- immig 1912

sons:
Felix Bosco 21 France
- immig 1913
Fred Bosco 19 France
- immig 1913
John Bosco 16 France
- immig 1913
Joseph Bosco 12 France
- immig 1913
Tony Bosco 16 (prob 6) MI
Frank Bosco 1 yr 10 mos MI

all living with James and Mary Militello
(Mary born in France)
---

Perhaps cousins James/Vincent Militello married sisters Mary & Rose Bosco?

Valarie

[vj]

Lois, as you suggested
Valarie

Best guess at what may have happened which could explain the differences between the 1920 and 1930 census records for James & Mary/Rose Militello apparently living with the same Bosco family.

Cousins James/Vincenzo Miltiello married sisters Mary and Rosa Bosco

In 1920 it's cousin James and wife Mary Bosco living with Mary & Rosa's parents
In 1930 it's your grandparents James and Rosa living with Mary & Rosa's parents

Does that sound possible?

Thank you! Valarie
==========

Cousin
1916 Marriage in BayCity

from FamilySearch Pilot

1916 Marriage Record

Groom's name: James Melitello
Groom's age: 24 years
Groom's birth year: 1892
Residence: Detroit
Groom's birthplace: Italy

Bride's name: Mary Bosco
Bride's race or color (on document):
Bride's age: 21 years
Bride's birth year: 1895
Residence: Bay City
Bride's birthplace: France

Marriage date: 03 Jun 1916
Marriage place: Bay City, Bay, Michigan

Groom's father's name: Tony (Militello)
Groom's mother's name: Mary Palazzolo

Father of bride's name: Tony (Bosco)
Mother of bride's name: Rose Cairamitaro (Dimercurio?)

Witnesses:
Vincent Militello Detroit (your grandfather?)
Genevieve Furso(?) Detroit

Film number: 2342714
Frame number:
Digital GS number: 4209300
Image number: 150
Reference number: v 1 p 100 rn 17294
Collection: Michigan Marriages 1868-1925
---

Your grandparents
1918 Marriage in Detroit:

checking this free site:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... tml#p=home

I found the marriage record for Vincenzo Militello and Rosa Bosco:

Date of marriage January 18, 1919. Vicenzo's father was Santo Militello, mother was Rosalia.
Rose's father was Tony and mother Rose.
Both Vincenzo and Rose are listed as born in Italy.

Image:
[img=http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6292/421004134.th.jpg]

Groom's name: Vincenzo Militello
Groom's age: 25 years
Groom's birth year: 1893
Residence: Detroit
Groom's birthplace: Italy

Bride's name: Rose Bosco
Bride's age: 18 years
Bride's birth year: 1900
Residence: Detroit
Bride's birthplace: Italy

Marriage type: License

Marriage date: 28 Oct 1918
Marriage place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan

Groom's father's name: Sonto (Santo Militello)
Groom's mother's name: Rosele

Father of bride's name: Tony (Bosco)
Mother of bride's name: Rose

Film number: 2342729
Frame number:
Digital GS number: 4209974
Image number: 313
Reference number: v 7 p 305 rn 168210
Collection: Michigan Marriages 1868-1925

[LoisM]

Valerie you guessed right!!

My grandpa and his cousin both married into the Bosco family, And that leads to alot of confusion.. I get them crossed up all the time!!

And the census is confusing because my Grandpa had 7 brothers and 1 sister and they all used the same family names over and over.

The Bosco's that are listed are my grandmother's brothers and 1 sister and her parents. I haven't started on that side of the family yet but I am taking notes along the way.

I am going to ask some family members and see of I can find out what railroad they worked for in St Louis. And to see if I can locate them in Missouri at some point.

Just when I think I got something figured out I get thrown a curve. But that is all part of challenge!!

Thanks for your help!

Lois M.

[vj]

Lois, thank you so much for the update .
Laura really found the critical records.
Since your grandparents got married in Detroit, do you suppose that is where they were in 1920?
Do you know where/when son Santo was born?
Thanks! Valarie

[LoisM]

Valerie,

Santo was born in Detroit in 1919 so they must have been there. Grandpa and his 3 brothers just aren't counted in any census until 1930.
I was trying to track the movements of them. I know 3 went to Stlouis and my grandpa also went later on before he was married.

I am new to all this I have never done any Genealogy before. So I am grateful for all the help.

I had no idea that Grandpa and his brothers moved around worked on a railroad and on a boat. I knew they came to this country but I didn't know when...so all this is great.

I plan to share the history with my local Genealogy Society as well when it complete. I think this may take quite a while to get done...but I won't give up.

I am going to ask a few relatives and see what else I can find out.

Talk to you later,
Lois M.

[vj]

Hey Lois

Another brother of Vincenzo/James
You're right, plenty of sons named Santo and daughters named Rose (after their grandparents)
Also quite a few Militello children born in Missouri
Thought this one had Rose and son Santo, but it's hard to tell.

It does have mother Rose born abt 1860, widow, immig abt 1910

Valarie
---

1920 Militello census

Home in 1920:
425 Monroe Street
Detroit Ward 7, Wayne, Michigan

head Martno Miletno 34
wife Jinnie Miletno 26
daughter Bose L Miletno 8
son Santo Miletno 4
son Vincent Miletno 11mo

mother Rose L Miletno 60, abt 1860
- widow
- immig 1910

brother Paul Miletno 24
sister-in-law Rose Miletno 18
nephew Santo Miletno 5mo

[vj]

from the State of MI

Bay County Naturalization Files
http://www.michigan.gov/mde/0,1607,7-14 ... --,00.html

LASTNAM FIRSTNAM MIDNAME JR BOX/VOL FOLDER/P PAPER1 PAPER2

Militello Vincenzo B4F1 P453 0 0
Militello Vincenzo B10F1 P2974 -1 0

how to order records:
http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-15 ... --,00.html

[LoisM]

Valerie,

Thanks for the Census and the Bay County records. I will check the Michigan records out. I am not sure if my Grandpa ever became a citizen or not.

The census I have no idea who that is...lol but it does seem to have my grandpa brother Paul and his wife living there. I will have to do some more checking on that.

You know it seems like I find some of the best info on my family when the last name is spelled wrong..lol. I am not kidding. I have found so many different ways it has been spelled over the years it isn't funny.

Sorry it took so long for the reply, I have been sick the last few days with a nasty sinus/cold thingy.

Thanks again for your help,
Lois M.

[vj]

Lois,
I'm glad you're feeling better.
This is probably the Rose from the 1920 census
Valarie

mother Rosalia Trentacosta Militello

from Ellis Island:
http://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html

31 May 1910, SS Europa, Palermo to NY
lines 21-22

1910 manifest
page 2

Rosalia Erentacosta (Trentacosta) 42 (abt 1868)
- widow
- last residence Terrasini
- leaving no one in Terrasini
- destination St Louis, MO
- joining son Antonino at 139 Seventh Street
- born in Terrasini
son Pasquale Militello 10 (abt 1900)
- possible naturalization notation: 8-139106 2/7/38 (Detroit)

help with naturalization notations:
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/manifests/occ/
---

from FamilySearch Pilot site
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... 7819#start

son Paul's marriages, mother's maiden name appears to be Trentacosta

Groom's name: Paul Militello
Groom's age: 22 years
Groom's birth year: 1896
Groom's birthplace: Italy
Bride's name: Rose Parisi
Marriage date: 27 Jul 1918
Marriage place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan

Groom's father's name: Sam
Groom's mother's name: Rosalia Crintacost
Father of bride's name: Sam
Mother of bride's name: Casumano

Film number: 2342729
Frame number:
Digital GS number: 4209974
Image number: 47
Reference number: v 7 p 42 rn 164389
Collection: Michigan Marriages 1868-1925

and

Groom's name: Paul Militello
Groom's age: 29 years
Groom's birth year: 1896
Groom's birthplace: Italy
Bride's name: Lena Parisi
Marriage date: 15 Dec 1925
Marriage place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan

Groom's father's name: Santo
Groom's mother's name: Rosie Rentacoste
Father of bride's name: Sam
Mother of bride's name: Mary Tusumana

Film number: 2342773
Frame number:
Digital GS number: 4001717
Image number: 368
Reference number: v 13 p 215 rn 303471
Collection: Michigan Marriages 1868-1925

[pink67]

mother Rosalia Trentacosta Militello

Look at these arrival manifests:

Vincenzo Militello, January 24, 1910
his name is crossed out, he didn't travel....
He stated he was leaving in Italy his mother Trentacoste Rosalia

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0029

page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0029

So I believe the January 27, 1910 arrival manifest is the right one for Vincenzo:

Possible 1910 arrival manifest for Vincenzo?

page 1:
www.ellisisland.org/EI...;line=0027

pge 2:
www.ellisisland.org/EI...;line=0027

single, from Terrasini, going to Boston to join his uncle Vincenzo Frontesi?
Mother in Terrasini Rosalia...

Laura

[vj]

Hi Laura !
Great find!
I kept finding Vincenzo's probable siblings leaving 'no one' in Terrasini after 1910.
Valarie

[LoisM]

Thanks to you both Laura and Valerie!

I appreciate all your help.

I am still feeling under the weather...and I can't get the work done I need too on this.

I was told that they left no one behind when they came to this country. So that would be all of them then in 1910.

I think that Santo (GGgrandpa) and a Pasquale both passed before they came here. I think the Pasquale listed is not the first one cause the b-dates don't make sense. And it states that Rose (GGrandma) was a widow...

I need to sit down and do a head count on the family and add the names and dates to everything and see what's missing.

I don't know how far back in the family I can get. Eyetalgal sent me alot of stuff including my GGGranparents names but most of that info is now in Italy and I don't speak the language.

Talk to you guys later!
Lois

[LoisM]

Hello,

I know it has been awhile but I have been contacting relatives for info. I was told I had a cousin that had alot of stuff on the Bosco side of the family. He got in touch and we are now starting to trade info. However, with some of the stuff he has told me I am now confused.

He said that my Grandmother Rose Bosco was born in Lacalle, Algeria not Lacroix and that the place was called "the cross" in French. Everything that I have is from Lacroix so now what?? I surfed for Lacalle and didn't come up with much

He is going to send me some more stuff via USPS so hopefully it will answer my questions.

I see alot of people visiting this post. To any relatives that may be lurking go ahead and post don't be chicken the people here are great!

Happy Thanksgiving!!!

Lois M.