Thankyou so much guys!
This information is amazing and, to an extent, I'm speachless. Hopefully there will be as much luck with Antonio (my great-grandfather), but as my distant cousins and I are tracking down Alfonso's history too, this proves to be just fantastic!
Dan
De Sio Family
Re: De Sio Family
Dan, we're all happy to help.
Teamwork, the members of the board here, you & your cousins
make the difference.
Antonio is turning out to be a little more elusive than Alfonso, tho.
We'll see...
Teamwork, the members of the board here, you & your cousins
make the difference.
Antonio is turning out to be a little more elusive than Alfonso, tho.
We'll see...
Re: De Sio Family
Thanks VJ, and thanks Trish.
I was just speaking to my cousin and she says that her aunt and other relatives say that Antonio's, Alfonso's and Concetta's mother was called Madeline Olive, but there is no offical backing, only word-of-mouth.
Also, A/A/C's father is definately Felice De Sio.
I tried searching for both of them, but no luck, only Felice's name on A/A's manifests.
Also, another BIG family mystery is Amalia, Antonio's first wife. no one knows what happened to her, who she was or even her maiden name. Its all very mysterious...
--Dan
I was just speaking to my cousin and she says that her aunt and other relatives say that Antonio's, Alfonso's and Concetta's mother was called Madeline Olive, but there is no offical backing, only word-of-mouth.
Also, A/A/C's father is definately Felice De Sio.
I tried searching for both of them, but no luck, only Felice's name on A/A's manifests.
Also, another BIG family mystery is Amalia, Antonio's first wife. no one knows what happened to her, who she was or even her maiden name. Its all very mysterious...
--Dan
Re: De Sio Family
Dan, couple of questions?
Having difficulty locating Antonio DESIO b 1888 in any US records.
Reread Antonio DESIO's Manifest 9 Jun 1909
going to see
brother in law Giuseppe D'AMORE (corrected) 2041 Clark St Goldsmith, (Potter), PA
destination Johnstown (Cambria) PA
- does D'AMORE (corrected) fit anywhere?
- could D'AMORE (corrected) be Concetta's husband (Antonio's sister)?
- or Amalia's maiden name (Antonio's 1st wife)?
also traveling with
- Alfonso MINGO? going to see uncle Giuseppe D'AMORE (corrected)
- Vincenzo COSEINO? (edit: CASCINO name will appear in a later post) going to see uncle Giuseppe D'AMORE (corrected)
Another question
- how long was Antonio DESIO in US after 1909?
If any of the above names connect perhaps they could lead to Antonio,
or perhaps he left the US before he made it into any records (census, WWI Draft)?
vj
Having difficulty locating Antonio DESIO b 1888 in any US records.
Reread Antonio DESIO's Manifest 9 Jun 1909
going to see
brother in law Giuseppe D'AMORE (corrected) 2041 Clark St Goldsmith, (Potter), PA
destination Johnstown (Cambria) PA
- does D'AMORE (corrected) fit anywhere?
- could D'AMORE (corrected) be Concetta's husband (Antonio's sister)?
- or Amalia's maiden name (Antonio's 1st wife)?
also traveling with
- Alfonso MINGO? going to see uncle Giuseppe D'AMORE (corrected)
- Vincenzo COSEINO? (edit: CASCINO name will appear in a later post) going to see uncle Giuseppe D'AMORE (corrected)
Another question
- how long was Antonio DESIO in US after 1909?
If any of the above names connect perhaps they could lead to Antonio,
or perhaps he left the US before he made it into any records (census, WWI Draft)?
vj
Re: De Sio Family
Well...
Antonio returned to Italy in 1912, this is according to my father who was told by Antonio that on his return voyage, his ship was called to aid the sinking Titanic (April 14/15th). Now, my father doesn't know what the ship was called, but I think it was the Carpathia, as it went from New York to Genoa to Naples (as far as I know,however, I could be wrong), and the Carpathia did collect survivours from the ship. Finding the correct ship may give us answers through manifests etc.
In regards to D'AURORA, Mingo and Coscino - no idea! I don't even know if Giuseppe was connected to Antonio through Amalia or Concetta, but apparently she was born 1908/9 , no known husband, died at the age of 18/19; and Amalia is a whole new mystery in herself!
Dan
Antonio returned to Italy in 1912, this is according to my father who was told by Antonio that on his return voyage, his ship was called to aid the sinking Titanic (April 14/15th). Now, my father doesn't know what the ship was called, but I think it was the Carpathia, as it went from New York to Genoa to Naples (as far as I know,however, I could be wrong), and the Carpathia did collect survivours from the ship. Finding the correct ship may give us answers through manifests etc.
In regards to D'AURORA, Mingo and Coscino - no idea! I don't even know if Giuseppe was connected to Antonio through Amalia or Concetta, but apparently she was born 1908/9 , no known husband, died at the age of 18/19; and Amalia is a whole new mystery in herself!
Dan
Re: De Sio Family
Hi ...
What if it was Giuseppe D'Amore travelling with
0002. D'Amore, Giuseppe M 51y M Italian Montecorvino
0003. Forio, Antonetta F 47y M Italian Montecorvino
0004. D'Amore, Amalia M 16y S Italian Montecorvino
0005. D'Amore, Armando M 3y S Italian Montecorvino
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 2513070060
First Name: Giuseppe
Last Name: D'Amore
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Montecorvino
Date of Arrival: Aug 26, 1897
Age at Arrival: 51y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Scotia
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0002
I noticed my name (mfjp) on page 1... what do you guys want me to link.... first? Don't mind helping out...
mfjp
What if it was Giuseppe D'Amore travelling with
0002. D'Amore, Giuseppe M 51y M Italian Montecorvino
0003. Forio, Antonetta F 47y M Italian Montecorvino
0004. D'Amore, Amalia M 16y S Italian Montecorvino
0005. D'Amore, Armando M 3y S Italian Montecorvino
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 2513070060
First Name: Giuseppe
Last Name: D'Amore
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Montecorvino
Date of Arrival: Aug 26, 1897
Age at Arrival: 51y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Scotia
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0002
I noticed my name (mfjp) on page 1... what do you guys want me to link.... first? Don't mind helping out...
mfjp
Re: De Sio Family
Dan,
Great story!
Carpathia is correct:
*NOTE: The Carpathia was eastbound, 3 days out of New York, when diverted to rescue the survivors of the Titanic in the early morning hours of 15 April 1912. These passengers were delivered to New York 18 April 1912, but the manifest is incorrectly filed as arriving 18 June 1912. The title page of the manifest has written "Arr Apr 18/1912" which is struck through, and "June 18th 1912" is written below that.
Trish's advice to write both towns and to use the Family History Center
should yield great results on Antonio since he was only in the US for 3 yrs.
Let us know how you do!
vj
Great story!
Carpathia is correct:
*NOTE: The Carpathia was eastbound, 3 days out of New York, when diverted to rescue the survivors of the Titanic in the early morning hours of 15 April 1912. These passengers were delivered to New York 18 April 1912, but the manifest is incorrectly filed as arriving 18 June 1912. The title page of the manifest has written "Arr Apr 18/1912" which is struck through, and "June 18th 1912" is written below that.
Trish's advice to write both towns and to use the Family History Center
should yield great results on Antonio since he was only in the US for 3 yrs.
Let us know how you do!
vj
Re: De Sio Family
mfjp
That will teach me to reload before I post!
Great catch on D'AMORE (& so appropriate for Valentine's Day)
Could you post the census?
The originals would be great!
Thanks!
vj
That will teach me to reload before I post!
Great catch on D'AMORE (& so appropriate for Valentine's Day)
Could you post the census?
The originals would be great!
Thanks!
vj
Re: De Sio Family
You guys are good!! Nice research done here!!
Sure! I will link what I can... providing I am not thrown off the computer here... just preparing dinner as well... so you will see documents later this evening.
I am having a heck of a time trying to view any manifest on my end... this has been going on for days now...
There are mentions of an Antonio DeSio on these manifests... not sure how they relate... new to this post... so I just may be "on the wrong boat"...
Antonio's name on manifest
First Name: Adelina (also with brother Francesco)
Last Name: De Sio
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Pugliano
Date of Arrival: Jul 14, 1902
Age at Arrival: 19 Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Palatia
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Manifest Line Number: 0012
These 2 are off to NY to join brother Antonio De Sio
mfjp
P.S. really nice to see teamwork here!!
Happy D'Amore's Day to all of you!!
maria
Sure! I will link what I can... providing I am not thrown off the computer here... just preparing dinner as well... so you will see documents later this evening.
I am having a heck of a time trying to view any manifest on my end... this has been going on for days now...
There are mentions of an Antonio DeSio on these manifests... not sure how they relate... new to this post... so I just may be "on the wrong boat"...
Antonio's name on manifest
First Name: Adelina (also with brother Francesco)
Last Name: De Sio
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Pugliano
Date of Arrival: Jul 14, 1902
Age at Arrival: 19 Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Palatia
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Manifest Line Number: 0012
These 2 are off to NY to join brother Antonio De Sio
mfjp
P.S. really nice to see teamwork here!!
Happy D'Amore's Day to all of you!!
maria
Re: De Sio Family
vj wrote:and
on ancestry.com
under Alfonso DERIS (DESIO)
WWI Draft Registration Card
12 Sep 1918
Alfonso DESIO
Chambersville, Indiana, PA
b 7 Dec 1885
Naturalized
occupation: Miner for Peterman Coal Co
nearest relative: Maria Desio
signature: he may have capitalized his 'S'
description: Short & Stout were checked, Brown eyes & hair
Hope this helps, finding information becomes easier the more we know.
Thanks Trish & Nuccia!
vj
Here is a viewable document
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/2497 ... reg6nj.gif
mfjp
Re: De Sio Family
Here's a viewable filevj wrote:ancestry under Alfonae DESIO
1930 US Census
Rayne, Indiana, PA
Alfonso DESIO, 44? yrs old b in Italy, married at age 25
Owns House $400 value (no street noted)
immig 1910 NA (naturalized)
occupation Miner - Coal Mine, not working at time of census
wife Mary, 39 yrs old b in Italy, married at age 22
can not read & write
immig 1913 NA
daughter Concetta, 17 yrs old b in PA
son Joseph, 16 yrs old b in PA
occupation Laborer - Coal Mine, yes working at time of census
son Tony, 15 yrs old b in PA
son Felix, 12 yrs old b in PA
daughter Therea (Theresa?), 9 yrs old b in PA
daughter Mary, 7 yrs old b in PA
son John, 4 6/12 yrs old b in PA
son Domonick, 1 9/12 yrs old b in PA
Does this look correct?
vj
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/6169 ... 9309ey.jpg
mfjp
Re: De Sio Family
Amazing!
Talk about teamwork.
Although the manifest may not be our D'Amore, and apparently everyone ended up in PA...
A search for mfjp's D'AMORE on ancestry turned up both Alphonso and Antonio under the name TRESEIA (DESIO)! I can't imagine finding them under that name without mfjp re-reading the manifest & getting the name right!
This thread has been amazing from Nuccia to Trish to mfjp. Thank you for the experience, Valarie
ancestry under Joseph DAMORE (image 15 of 47, 1st link is bad)
(on manifest Antonio DESIO's brother-in-law)
1910 US Census
Rayne, Indiana, PA (same as Alphonso in 1920 & 1930)
Joseph DAMORE, 32 yrs old, immig 1905, Coal Miner
wife Elizabeth, 27 yrs old, married 10 yrs, 5 children, immig 1905
son Frank, 9 yrs old, b Italy
daughter Rosie, 7 yrs old, b Italy
daughter Mary F, 6 yrs old, b Italy
daughter Idah D?, 2 yrs old, b PA
daughter Jennie, 1 yr old, b PA
boarder Alphonse TRESEIA (DESIO), 24 yrs old, immig 1910
Coal Miner
boarder Tony TRESEIA (DESIO), 22 yrs old, immig 1909
Coal Miner
and remember these two from the 1909 Manifest (above)
boarder Alphonse MINCK (MINGO?), 19 yrs old, immig 1909
Coal Miner
boarder James CASEL (maybe Vincenzo COSCINO), 20 yrs old,
immig 1909, Coal Miner
boarder Joseph MUSCHEL?, 24 yrs old, immig 1907? Coal Miner
wow!
vj
Talk about teamwork.
Although the manifest may not be our D'Amore, and apparently everyone ended up in PA...
A search for mfjp's D'AMORE on ancestry turned up both Alphonso and Antonio under the name TRESEIA (DESIO)! I can't imagine finding them under that name without mfjp re-reading the manifest & getting the name right!
This thread has been amazing from Nuccia to Trish to mfjp. Thank you for the experience, Valarie
ancestry under Joseph DAMORE (image 15 of 47, 1st link is bad)
(on manifest Antonio DESIO's brother-in-law)
1910 US Census
Rayne, Indiana, PA (same as Alphonso in 1920 & 1930)
Joseph DAMORE, 32 yrs old, immig 1905, Coal Miner
wife Elizabeth, 27 yrs old, married 10 yrs, 5 children, immig 1905
son Frank, 9 yrs old, b Italy
daughter Rosie, 7 yrs old, b Italy
daughter Mary F, 6 yrs old, b Italy
daughter Idah D?, 2 yrs old, b PA
daughter Jennie, 1 yr old, b PA
boarder Alphonse TRESEIA (DESIO), 24 yrs old, immig 1910
Coal Miner
boarder Tony TRESEIA (DESIO), 22 yrs old, immig 1909
Coal Miner
and remember these two from the 1909 Manifest (above)
boarder Alphonse MINCK (MINGO?), 19 yrs old, immig 1909
Coal Miner
boarder James CASEL (maybe Vincenzo COSCINO), 20 yrs old,
immig 1909, Coal Miner
boarder Joseph MUSCHEL?, 24 yrs old, immig 1907? Coal Miner
wow!
vj
Re: De Sio Family
Here is a viewable file.vj wrote:ancestry under Alfonse DEER (DESIO)
1920 US Census
Rayne, Indiana, PA
Alphonse DESIO, 34 yrs old
Rents House on Main Street
immig 1910 NA 1913
occupation Miner - Coal Mine
wife Mary, 29 yrs old
immig 1912 NA 1913
daughter Concetta, 7 yrs old
son Joseph, 5 yrs old
son Antonio, 4 1/12 yrs old
son Felix, 1 6/12 yrs old
Dan it would be great if you could look these up at a
Family History Center where they have Ancestry.com
You can appreciate from the original pages what a diverse
neighborhood they lived in & maybe recognize some
relatives living near by?
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6223 ... 9209me.gif
mfjp
Re: De Sio Family
Will be linking that 1910 census record next! That's a great find!!
Looks like we're both posting at the same time...
And since Dan is in England.... he'll have quite the info to absorb in the morning...
back shortly...
mfjp
Looks like we're both posting at the same time...
And since Dan is in England.... he'll have quite the info to absorb in the morning...
back shortly...
mfjp
Re: De Sio Family
vj wrote:Amazing!
Talk about teamwork.
Although the manifest may not be our D'Amore, and apparently everyone ended up in PA...
A search for mfjp's D'AMORE on ancestry turned up both Alphonso and Antonio under the name TRESEIA (DESIO)! I can't imagine finding them under that name without mfjp re-reading the manifest & getting the name right!
This thread has been amazing from Nuccia to Trish to mfjp. Thank you for the experience, Valarie
ancestry under Joseph DAMORE (image 15 of 47, 1st link is bad)
(on manifest Antonio DESIO's brother-in-law)
1910 US Census
Rayne, Indiana, PA (same as Alphonso in 1920 & 1930)
Joseph DAMORE, 32 yrs old, immig 1905, Coal Miner
wife Elizabeth, 27 yrs old, married 10 yrs, 5 children, immig 1905
son Frank, 9 yrs old, b Italy
daughter Rosie, 7 yrs old, b Italy
daughter Mary F, 6 yrs old, b Italy
daughter Idah D?, 2 yrs old, b PA
daughter Jennie, 1 yr old, b PA
boarder Alphonse TRESEIA (DESIO), 24 yrs old, immig 1910
Coal Miner
boarder Tony TRESEIA (DESIO), 22 yrs old, immig 1909
Coal Miner
and remember these two from the 1909 Manifest (above)
boarder Alphonse MINCK (MINGO?), 19 yrs old, immig 1909
Coal Miner
boarder James CASEL (maybe Vincenzo COSCINO), 20 yrs old,
immig 1909, Coal Miner
boarder Joseph MUSCHEL?, 24 yrs old, immig 1907? Coal Miner
wow!
vj
"TRESEIA" imagine that!! What a valuable piece of info you found, Valarie. Joseph D'Amore had a big family... and then to add 5 more boarders to his home... these people were simply amazing...
Here is the viewable file.
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/3886 ... ore5lc.jpg
mfjp
