Where to start?

[jcsm400]

Hi gpcnz,

FHL fims for Palazzo San Gervassio are limited to 1809-1860>

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... ato+civile++

For records not included on the films, you will need to write to the town hall.

Ufficio di Stato Civile
Via Roma, 34
85026 Palazzo San Gervasio (PZ)
ITALY

Interactive letter:

http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

Include a self addressed return envelope, a copy of your photo ID, and 1 or more international reply coupons (depending on how many records you are requesting). These can be obtained at your main post office and covers the cost of the return postage.

Hope this helps.

jcsm

[nuccia]

From the New York Passenger Lists..image from the detained passenger list.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Ruggiero Abbatemarco
Name: Ruggiero Abbatemarco
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Ship Name: Taormina
Search Ship Database: View the Taormina in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 3
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_3260
Page Number: 164

Source Citation: Year: 1923; Microfilm serial: T715; Microfilm roll: T715_3260; Line: 3; .

Detained Passenger Manifest

Theres the regular passenger just as well. Will be right back.

[nuccia]

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Ruggiero Abbatemarco
Name: Ruggiero Abbatemarco
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Napoli
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Taormina
Search Ship Database: View the Taormina in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 20
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_3260
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: palazzes g
Page Number: 93

Source Citation: Year: 1923; Microfilm serial: T715; Microfilm roll: T715_3260; Line: 20; .

Manifest Page 1

Manifest Page 2

Hope he's the one you're looking for.

[nuccia]

There is another Ruggerio Abbatemarco..

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Ruggiero Abbatemarco
Name: Ruggiero Abbatemarco
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Conte Biancamano
Search Ship Database: Search the Conte Biancamano in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 3
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_4258
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: palazzo s jervasio
Page Number: 187

Source Citation: Year: 1928; Microfilm serial: T715; Microfilm roll: T715_4258; Line: 3; .

Manifest Page 1

Page 2

[nuccia]

And heres the family of the above Ruggiero traveling together..

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Ruggiero Abbatemarco
Name: Ruggiero Abbatemarco
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Conte Biancamano
Search Ship Database: Search the Conte Biancamano in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 5
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_4881
Page Number: 75

Source Citation: Year: 1930; Microfilm serial: T715; Microfilm roll: T715_4881; Line: 5; .

Page 1

Page 2

[nuccia]

Heres the death info..

Social Security Death Index
about Ruggiero Abbatemarco
Name: Ruggiero Abbatemarco
SSN: xxx-xx-xxxx
Last Residence: 07208 Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey, United States of America
Born: 4 Sep 1893
Died: Sep 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (Before 1951 )

Social Security Death Index
about Madlana Abbatemarco
Name: Madlana Abbatemarco
SSN: xxx-xx-xxxx
Last Residence: 07208 Elizabeth, Union, New Jersey, United States of America
Born: 2 Feb 1901
Last Benefit: 07205 Hillside, Union, New Jersey, United States of America
Died: Nov 1980
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951 )

[gpcnz]

That's fantastic! They are all one in the same. From what I have learned was that he took many solo trips from Italy to America between 1912 and 1930. This last trip, after working 2 years in America, he decided to take his family out of Mussolini's Italy and move them to Newark, New Jersey. On this trip, he took his wife, Magdalena (my Grandmother); his two surviving sons (Joe & Nick) and my Mother (Antoinette) who was 2 years old at the time. They had 4 children born in Italy however 1 sibling did not survive. But, in America, they had 6 more children although 2 twins died at 3 months. Thus leaving a total of 7 children (Joe, Nick, Antoinette, Angie, Danny, Paul, & Lucy). You could say my grandparents were prolific.
Everytime my grandfather came home to his wife and kids, he would ask instead of "What's New?" but "WHO'S NEW?"
LOL

[michaelPiacentini]

I'm amazed that this old topic is back up top. Glad to see it helped somebody else.
I have learned a lot since this topic last year.

The last name on several of the manifests that we identified as Geurino, was actually Querqui. Michele was a cousin of my Great GF which me and my aunt figured out by looking through all the manifests I could tie to my family.
Amazing the clues you can find by reading everything.

[michaelPiacentini]

Well now my Grandfather was Mario and he died in 1990 as well??
What state and what date did the Mario you speak of pass away?

[gpcnz]

Mike,
My Uncle Mario passed away in NYC (the Bronx) after being in a coma for about a year. He left his wife (Mary), 2 daughters (Carol-Anne, & Joanne) and a son (Mario-Michael). I am not sure of the exact date.

[gpcnz]

Just wanted to say that there is a great "Family Tree" site called Geni and it is free. It's at http://www.geni.com/
You can add names and invite family members to join. They can actually submit information on existing names that you put in.
The idea of the site is to see how far the tree can go and who is linked to who as far as family is concerned.
Definitely worth a look.
Plus you can e-mail your family anything once you have their e-mail addreses as I just e-mailed mine about this great site.

[michaelPiacentini]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/IAYBAbJQPeNhJRwT2
Looking for some help with a translation.
Been a few years and I recently gained new information that I am trying to follow up on.