Need help translation Marriage Record Palermo

[helepera]

Lucap,

I found the Prizzi marriage record, and I am hoping it will provide additional info for Benedetta.
Joseph Scianni wed Benedetta, but I'd like to know what the English translation is after the documention mentions Benedetta. I know she is SPURIA, but wat is the exact translation after Rosalia Amato? Does it explain the relationship? DId Benedetta live with them?

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab10 ... Prizzi.png

Many thanks!

[Lucap]

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Benedetta was a "spuria" (spurious). This means that she was an illegitimate daughter, but in the record it's not written the parent's name. It says:

last line of page 1
... et Benedictam spuriam nutritam a
first line of page 2:
jug(alibus) Josepho Leone et Rosalia Amato...

...e Benedetta, spuria, allevata (=raised) dai coniugi Giuseppe Leone e Rosalia Amato...

The words after Rosalia Amato are: eorumque mutuo consensu habito = e avuto il loro reciproco consenso = and had their mutual consensus

[helepera]

Lucap,
Thank You!

I have another for you (smile). This one is a bit hard for me to understand, because I am unsure of the bride's family:
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab10 ... ge1807.jpg

Can u help me understand the comments about the bride and her family?
Thanks!

[Lucap]

Here you are the transcription; late in the morning I'll provide you the translation.

Die 5 Octobris XI indictione 1807
Denuntiationibus praemissis tribus diebus festivis quarum prima habita
fuit die 23, altera 24 et tertia 30 praecedenti Augusti ... inter
missarum solemnia, Ego Sacerdos D. Antoninus Giammancheri cappellanus
interrogavi Antoninum Manta filium quondam Vincentii et viventis Anna
Maria Manta et Fazio quondam jugalium, et Benedictam Maida sch(!) filiam
legitimam et naturalem quondam Josephi et viventis Josephae Maida et Guarneri
huius [parochiae] [eorumque] mutuo consensu habito per verba de praesenti matrimonio conjunxi
coram testibus magister Antonino Radosti(!) et Vincentio Fazio.

[helepera]

Thank you.
Is this correct in English?
Antonium is the son of Vincent and the living Anna Maria Manta (of/nee/maiden is FAZIO).

Benedictam Maida is the daughter of Joseph and the living Josepha (of/nee/maiden=Guaneiri).

I don't understand the role of Rodosti and Vincent et Fazio? Priest, or god parents? Can u let me know? Grazie.

[maestra36]

It would be Antonio in Italian and Anthony in English.

Benedicta (feminine form of Benedict).

Josepha would be Giuseppa in Italian and Josephine in English

Antonino Radosti and Vincentio Fazio were witnesses (testibus)


This is a marriage record so no godparents!

[Lucap]

In italian:

Il giorno 5 di Ottobre 1807, indizione undicesima
Premesse tre pubblicazioni in tre giorni festivi delle quali la prima avuta il giorno 23, un'altra [il giorno] 24 e la terza [il giorno] 30 del passato Agosto ... all'interno dei riti solenni della messa, io Sacerdote Cappellano Don Antonio Giammancheri interrogai Antonino Manta figlio del fu Vincenzo e della vivente Anna Maria Manta [nata] Fazio un tempo coniugi, e Benedetta Maida sch(???) figlia legittima e naturale del fu Giuseppe e della vivente Giuseppa Maida [nata] Guarneri di questa [parrocchia] e avuto [il loro] reciproco consenso li congiunsi in matrimonio "per verba de presenti" di fronte ai testimoni [witnesses] mastro Antonino Radosti e Vincenzo Fazio.

[helepera]

Grazie! Maida's name is spelled differently on many of the records. At times it's shown as Maida, Maita, Madda. But, better to have something, than nothing....

[helepera]

Hello Lucap and all,

The attached document is marriage record for Carmello Pecorraro and Antonina Ferrara. The written doc is difficult to understand, and I am unable to fully decipher/determine the parents of the bride and groom. Can u help and reply in English? Thank you!

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab10 ... 11-508.png

[Lucap]

Carmelo Pecoraro son of Antonio (of the late Girolamo) and Angela.
Antonina [please note: in the document the name of the bride is Francesca!!] Ferrara daughter of Francesco (of the late Domenico) and xxx [Piera?] xxx of the late Girolamo

[helepera]

Thank you. I did see that the heading for the bridge and groom stated the names, but I became confused when I saw Francesca twice. I cou;dn't determine the lineage. So, thanks for clearing this for me.
This type of handwriting is very hard for me to translate, and some of the abbreviations are also difficult. I see the name Hieronymous (girolamo) and Angela on Line 9 and another name on Line 10. i have no idea who Angela or others on Line 10 are.
I am trying to obtain info on the parents and grandparents of the bride and groom, so identifying all the names in the doc are important.

Thank you for your help, once again...

[Lucap]

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The picture is too small, but this what I can read. I hope it helps

Die eodem
Inter Carmelum Pecoraro Antonii, et
Antoninam Ferrara Francisci
Denunciationibus praemissis in hac matrici Ecclesia
Perizzi, tribus diebus festivis continuis, scilicet 30 Au-
gusti p(rossimi) p(assati) sexto, et octavo currentis 7bris, inter mis-
sarum solemnia, nulloque impedimento detecto, Ego Sacer-
dos Dominus Michael .... de licentia huius
Reverendissimi Parochi Vicaris(?) ... D. Josephi ..., interro-
gavi Carmelum Pecoraro innuptus huius parochiae
filium legitimum et naturalem Antonii Pecoraro quondam
Hieronimi, et Angela iugalium huius terrae,
et Franciscam Ferrara ... innuptam huius par-
chiae praefatae, filiam legitimam, et naturalem Francisci
Ferrara quondam Dominici, et quondam Pera(???) ...
... quondam Hieronimi olim iugalium huius
terrae praedicta, eorumque consensu habito per
verba de presenti in matrimonium coniunxi
et in missa solemniter benedixi. Praesentibus
testibus notis Admodum Reverendum D. Marino Canzonario(?)
cappellano sacramentali maiori(?) et vicario
foraneo huius terrae, et Reverendo Sacerdos D. Alphonso
Folgone(?) ex ... cappelano sacramentali, et Isidoro ...
.. quondam Viti.

[helepera]

Thank you so much!!!!! You are very patient and so accommodating
Mille grazie!

Today is Thanksgiving Day in America. Happy Thanksgiving to all:-)

[helepera]

Hello. i have another latin mystery to solve. This is the record:
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab10 ... ateUnk.png

It has 2 sections. The first section is the Index of marriage, showing the name GEORGIO GRISTINA SALVATORE of Joseph. So, i assume joseph is the father of Giorgio Salvatore. Yes? ---- The bride appears to be: Joanna Collura of Antony. Yes?

The second section is the marriage info, which I find so difficult to read and translate to English. The first appearance of Salv. does not show Giorgio Salv., and instead shows Salv. di Gristina son of Joseph in the record. Yes? So is his name Giorgio or Sal? Sal, I assume?

BUT: What is the translation after the word Joseph? Is there something about Louis? Then later, I think it states that she is the daughter of Pauli and Antonia. Yes?

Any help (in English) is greatly appreciated.
Ciao e grazie!

[Lucap]

Giorgio Di Gristina (not sure about the G of the surname: it's quite different from the G of Giorgio!) son of Salvatore Di Gristina and Anna (Salvatore is son of the late Joseph=Giuseppe)
Giovanna Collura daughter of the late Antonio and the living Antonina (Antonio was son of Paolo)

Die eodem
Inter Georgium Di Gristina Salvatoris
et Joannam Collura
Denunciationibus praemissis in hac matrici Ecclesia Prizzi
tribus diebus festivis continuis, scilicet 24 et 28 Au-
gusti p(roximi) p(assat)i et 4° currentis 7bris, inter missarum solemnia
et nullo impedimento detecto, Ego Sacerdos D. Hieroni-
mus Sinatra S(?) T(?) P(?) Cappellanus Sacramentalis Ma-
iori, de licentia parochi interrogavi Georgium di Gristina innuptum
huius paroecia, filium legitimum et naturalem Salv(ator)is
Di Gristina quondam Joseph et Annae iugalium, et Jo-
annam Collura ... innuptam huius paroecia
praefatae, filiam legitimam et naturalem quondam An-
tonii Collura Pauli et viventis Antoninae o-
lim iugalium eorumque consensu habito per ver-
ba de presenti in matrimonium coniunxi et in mis-
sa benedixi. Testibus ... D. Philippo Falso-
ne et magistro Mattheo Tessitore.