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rosecarm wrote:Looking for info on Giovanni Alfier, born approximately 1880, most likely in Polcenigo. Died Oct. 4, 1917 in siskiyou county, California. Founded the Weed Bakery in 1906 in Weed, Ca. after purchasing the land in 1905. He died in the bakery during a fire. His brothers were also founders of the bakery and their names are possibly Valentino and Guiseppe. He may also have had a cousin Luigi Alfier. The owners of the bakery are listed in local history sources as V Alfier and V.O. Alfier. However, Giovanni's proper name is given in the county death records. He was 37 at the time of death. He was married and I do not know the name of his wife. He had children and I do not know who they were either. I am preparing for the centennial celebration of the bakery's founding. It is still in existence and still producing the same breads. I would like him to receive proper credit for his efforts, finally. For this reason, I need FACTUAL statements as to who his family was, where they came from, and where they went. Unfortunately, there are those in our town who would like the Italian history to be a bit more dramatic than it is and I need to work fast. Anyone with any connection to the Alfiers, either by research, relation, or general knowledge, please help. Thank you.
Hi, about the ALFIER surname, I found this genealogic tree, hoping helpful for you, and the people coming from Mezzomonte hamleth of Polcenigo(Pordenone province, Friuli Venezia Giulia region, Italy): http://gw1.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=th ... alfier&t=N
this family branche was emigrated in French, but I think that the branche is the same of your Alfier... the author of this genealogic tree are here so you can to contact (eventually) http://www.geneanet.org/contact.php3?pl ... =thetienne

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I know that in Mezzomonte/Polcenigo are living again( untill August 20059 an very old person, 102 old, widow of Giacomo Alfier of Mezzomonte, http://gazzettino.it/VisualizzaArticolo ... 8&Pagina=6

that was both emigrated in Switzerland before, and after in French, (most probable connected with the french branche) and finally bach again in Mezzomonte, I think that someone of this family http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... c=&x=0&y=0
they can help you fore to find all infos that you need... regards, suanj
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Re: Giovanni Alfier, Udine

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Just to review manifests found...

1905
First Name: Singi (born 1871+-)
Last Name: Alfier
Ethnicity: Italy, North Italian
Last Place of Residence: Udine
Date of Arrival: Dec 05, 1905
Age at Arrival:  34y    Gender:  M    Marital Status:  M  
Ship of Travel: La Gascogne
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0007

Off to Victoria, Ontario, Canada to join cousin Giovanni “Alfarâ€Â
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mfjp wrote:Just to review manifests found...


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1909
First Name: Giovanni (born 1880+-)
Last Name: Alfier
Ethnicity: Italy, N. Italian
Last Place of Residence: Polcemza, Italy
Date of Arrival: Feb 01, 1909
Age at Arrival:  29y    Gender:  M    Marital Status:  Married 
Ship of Travel: La Gascogne
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0005
A Non-Immigrant Alien
Last permanent address was Polcenigo
Wife (nearest relative in Italy) is Maddalena Alfier - living in Polcenigo
Final destination is to San Fransisco, California
Will be joining brother Valentino in Reving California
This manifest also tells me that he was in San Fransisco, California from 190? to 1908
No mention of Canada on this manifest either....
There should be another manifest for this Giovanni...
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1911
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mfjp
Upon further research- this is probably the Giovanni I'm looking for. Times were hard for Greeks and Italians in Weed. A newspaper article in the Siskiyou News for September 29, 1917 details "John" (Giovanni) Alfier as being shot in the right leg above the knee while walking in Greek Camp. They list him then as proprietor of the Weed bakery and show him off to hospital. Four days later, he died in the bakery in the arson fire. Probably did not pay for protection. In any case, his obituary states that he was born in 1880 in Polcenigo, had been in the states for nine years and in Weed for two years before his death. This obit would correspond with the Ellis Island record earlier. He had originally been in S.F. in 1907, returned to Polcenigo in late 1908, and then back to U.S. in 1998.
However, my research has turned up that the Alfiers were not the original owners of the bakery. Instead it was Roberto Paulazzo or Roberto Paolazzo. Starting a new thread for him.
Thanks much.
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Nice to hear from you again. Looks like you really like to research people too...

Appreciate your follow up on the Alfiers.

Such an unfortunate person though...

Hopefully one day, a descendant from the Alfiers line will read your research notes and appreciate what you've put together about this family.

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rosecarm wrote:
mfjp wrote:Just to review manifests found...


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1909
First Name: Giovanni (born 1880+-)
Last Name: Alfier
Ethnicity: Italy, N. Italian
Last Place of Residence: Polcemza, Italy
Date of Arrival: Feb 01, 1909
Age at Arrival:  29y    Gender:  M    Marital Status:  Married 
Ship of Travel: La Gascogne
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0005
A Non-Immigrant Alien
Last permanent address was Polcenigo
Wife (nearest relative in Italy) is Maddalena Alfier - living in Polcenigo
Final destination is to San Fransisco, California
Will be joining brother Valentino in Reving California
This manifest also tells me that he was in San Fransisco, California from 190? to 1908
No mention of Canada on this manifest either....
There should be another manifest for this Giovanni...
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1911
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mfjp
Upon further research- this is probably the Giovanni I'm looking for. Times were hard for Greeks and Italians in Weed. A newspaper article in the Siskiyou News for September 29, 1917 details "John" (Giovanni) Alfier as being shot in the right leg above the knee while walking in Greek Camp. They list him then as proprietor of the Weed bakery and show him off to hospital. Four days later, he died in the bakery in the arson fire. Probably did not pay for protection. In any case, his obituary states that he was born in 1880 in Polcenigo, had been in the states for nine years and in Weed for two years before his death. This obit would correspond with the Ellis Island record earlier. He had originally been in S.F. in 1907, returned to Polcenigo in late 1908, and then back to U.S. in 1998.
However, my research has turned up that the Alfiers were not the original owners of the bakery. Instead it was Roberto Paulazzo or Roberto Paolazzo. Starting a new thread for him.
Thanks much.
Hello,
this is vital and civil record office of Polcenigo, where you can request his birth record

Comune
Ufficio di Stato civile
Piazza Plebiscito, 1
33070 Polcenigo (PN)

I hope it helps, bye ricbru
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Re: Giovanni Alfier, Udine

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Bonjour,

Votre Giovanni ALFIER vient de Mezzomonte, petite « fraction » de la commune de Polcenigo, Province de Pordenone, Région du Frioul Vénétie Julienne en Italie.
Vous trouverez de très intéressantes informations sur les familles Alfier, Zanchet, Mezzaroba,... liées aux ALFIER via site suivant :
http://th-etienne.perso.wanadoo.fr/fr/

Je vous conseille également d’effectuer vos recherches via le site http://www.geneanet.org

Bien à vous,

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Re: Giovanni Alfier, Udine

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chiaradia wrote:Bonjour,

Votre Giovanni ALFIER vient de Mezzomonte, petite « fraction » de la commune de Polcenigo, Province de Pordenone, Région du Frioul Vénétie Julienne en Italie.
Vous trouverez de très intéressantes informations sur les familles Alfier, Zanchet, Mezzaroba,... liées aux ALFIER via site suivant :
http://th-etienne.perso.wanadoo.fr/fr/

Je vous conseille également d’effectuer vos recherches via le site http://www.geneanet.org

Bien à vous,

Agnès Marcandella (Belgique)
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Hello,

Your Giovanni ALFIER comes from Mezzomonte, small "fraction" of
the commune of Polcenigo, Province of Pordenone, Région of the Friuli
Venezia Julienne to Italy. You will find very interesting information
on the families Alfier, Zanchet, Mezzaroba... related to the ALFIER
via following site: http://th-etienne.perso.wanadoo.fr/fr/

I also advise you to carry out your search via the site
www.geneanet.org

Yours sincerely,

Agnes Marcandella (Belgium
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Re: Giovanni Alfier, Udine

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just wondering if anyone has ever heard of Eda Del Favero born 1910 in Udine or Niska Gazzola from Treviso?
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Are you referring to the towns of Udine & Treviso or the provinces?

Husband & wife? Did they immigrate? Where? When?

What are your goals and do you have any records for them?
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Re: Giovanni Alfier, Udine

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GALLUCCIO wrote:just wondering if anyone has ever heard of Eda Del Favero born 1910 in Udine or Niska Gazzola from Treviso?
Hi galluccio, perhaps is better if you make anther topic about your question, otherwise it is some confusion .. regards, suanj
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