Laurenzo and naturalization records

[claurenzo]

you can request the Alessandra Birth certificate helpful for dual citizenship writing to:
Ufficio di Stato Civile
Piazza Umberto I,
81025 Marcianise (CE)
Italy

here the email: http://marcianise.etrasparenza.it/archi ... _25_1.html
The txt in italian Language and please to explain that is for dual citizenship request; please to enclose also a picture of your ID card and don't miss you full mail address..
Regards,
suanj

You are amazing Suanj! I have forwarded the information to my friend who is fluent and also dual citizenship. He is seeing if he can actually go in person to obtain the documents to help speed up our process You are truly gifted at what you do! Thank you can not express it enough

[claurenzo]

The family don't lived in Manhattan or Brooklyn, but, by 1920 census:


James Lorenzo

United States Census, 1920

Name James Lorenzo
Event Type Census
Event Year 1920
Event Place Stillwater, Saratoga, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 46
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1874
Birthplace Italy
Immigration Year 1914
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Italy

Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

James Lorenzo Head M 46 Italy
Sandi Lorenzo Wife F 34 Italy
Fred Lorenzo Son M 17 Italy
Guila Lorenzo Daughter F 7 New York
Mar? Lorenzo Daughter F 6 New York
Joseph Lorenzo Son M 5 New York
Arnold Lorenzo Son M 4 New York
Antonio Lorenzo Son M 1 New York

and by 1930 census:


James De Lorenzo

United States Census, 1930

Name James De Lorenzo
Event Type Census
Event Year 1930
Event Place Mechanicville, Saratoga, New York, United States
Gender Male
Age 55
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1875
Birthplace Italy
Immigration Year 1907
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Italy



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

James De Lorenzo Head M 55 Italy
Alisandra De Lorenzo Wife F 45 Italy
Concetta De Lorenzo Daughter F 18 New York
Mary De Lorenzo Daughter F 17 New York
Joseph De Lorenzo Son M 14 New York
Armond De Lorenzo Son M 13 New York
Peter De Lorenzo Son M 9 New York
Carmela De Lorenzo Daughter F 8 New York
James De Lorenzo Son M 6 New York
Madeline De Lorenzo Daughter F 4 New York
the surname becoming De Lorenzo, but italian right spelling is Laurenza, ok.. the immigation year is wrong.. no problem...
suanj

So it appears he changed his name to James? And also my grandfather....his name was Vincent or Vincenzo but per the census it looks like his name is James De Lorenzo (in 1930 - age 6, that makes sense as he was born 1925). Also correct area of where my family still resides.

One question here: Is there a link to view the 1910, 1920 and 1930 pages of these records (we previously did not look at 1910 records - I think it would be in NYC then?)? I have to obtain certified copy for the consulate and it is asking for information such as parish/ward, township, county, page number, enumeration district, etc. I think I will need to look at the 1910 census to see the name and when it changed as I presume I will have to prove the name change and it's the same person. I will definitely need 1920 to prove the name change for 1930, which is the one I need to prove my grandfather's relation to my great grand-father and also proving no naturalization is listed. I will order 1920 and 1930 and also 1910 if there are changes on that form as well.

Thanks again!

[suanj]

In USA James is used also for italian first name Vincenzo.. here the 1920 census, you can save the copy https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1488411
and here the 1930 census:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1810731
just a moment to find the 1910 census..
ok?
suanj

[suanj]

I will continue later, because need more time to search of 1910 census,
suanj

[suanj]

Hi, on the1909 ship's manifest of Vincenzo's son, Ferdinando, the Vincenzo home was in Mechanicville, Saratoga, New York, United States and ditto on the 1911 ship's manifest of Alessandra Faicchio, but I cannot find Vincenzo and Ferdinando on 1910 census of Mechanicville, Saratoga, New York, United States ...
suanj

[claurenzo]

Hi Suanj!

I just made my appointment at the consulate and will be working for all of these documents. I have 10 months. I have received the "no records found" form and reached out to the secondary (one of the immigration places) stated on the form, who instructed me I have to go to the local courthouse to check there. I may have some questions (if you are familiar with that part vs just being a rockstar on the research part ).

I did want to find out however, is my family that has this lineage qualified?

Great Grandfather -> Grandfather - > Mother - > Son

My lineage is the same as his but with a Father and daughter

Great Grandfather - > Grandfather - > Father - > Daughter

My family has to apply in NY while I have to apply in Miami so they will all set up different appointment times and if the wait in NY is 2 years, I want them to set the appointment now

Thank you!