Lauri Family Birth Records Search Striking Out

[carubia]

He married Teresa Maria Siracusa in 1855. The 3rd page of the record (which is on the 2nd slide attached below) had his father's date of death, which is how I found his father's death record so quickly. Here is the marriage record:

[carubia]

Looking at all the evidence we have, Giuseppe Musicao and Giuseppa Lauri from Siculiana were your 2nd great-grandparents, and there weren't that many Musicao people in Siculiana. Giuseppe would've been born in the 1850s or '40s, and the only Giuseppe Musicao (or Musicau) that has turned up in searches was born in 1850, matching the ship's manifest and his children's birth records. Moreover, the parents of that Giuseppe were Paolo and Caterina, which matches the names of his only 2 children that we know of. So the odds are that this is him.

I'm less certain of Giuseppa Lauri. How do you know that she was born in Messina? What record says this? How did any of the people in your family who are researching her even think to look there?

[carubia]

Oh< I see what happened. You knew your GGGM was Giuseppa Lauri, but the connection to Messina was established by DNA. Your cousins are descended from probably siblings of Giuseppa and they traced their family back to Messina. It seems that they would be 4th cousins, though, assuming they were descended from Paolo Lauri and Gaetana Sergi.

[mkukiela]

Oh< I see what happened. You knew your GGGM was Giuseppa Lauri, but the connection to Messina was established by DNA. Your cousins are descended from probably siblings of Giuseppa and they traced their family back to Messina. It seems that they would be 4th cousins, though, assuming they were descended from Paolo Lauri and Gaetana Sergi.

Yes, this is correct. I was not searching Messina for any records for years...I located Paolo Lauri's marriage record in a search of the 1890 Agrigento registry while looking for the marriage record of my 2nd Great grandmother Giuseppa Lauri. I decided to put Paolo Lauri in my tree as a sibling of my 2ndGGM and I received a leaf from a cousin in Maryland and a subsequent DNA match. This cousin had many of these names already worked out including parents and grandparents of the Lauri clan. But...obviously if my DNA matches a Lauri cousin with Paolo Lauri and Gaetana Sergi in it I must have the right Giuseppa Lauri?

[carubia]

Yeah, that sounds reasonable.

BTW, my friend has the Siculiana church marriage records from 1885 to 1890 and he's checking them now.

[carubia]

Unfortunately there's no church marriage record for them in Siculiana between 1885 and 1890.

[mkukiela]

Unfortunately there's no church marriage record for them in Siculiana between 1885 and 1890.

Carubia,

Thank you and him for checking though.
One fascinating item of note...my GGM was born in Siculiana on 42 Via Lunga I believe (according to the birth record).
However, her brother Paolo was born in Agrigento on Via Santa Maria with no house number listed. When I visited a couple weeks ago the only street I could find was Via Santa Maria Dei Greci and there is an interesting and beautiful church/museum there. Would this be the only Via Santa Maria in Agrigento at this time 1890? Is it strange that there is no house number for this record which I am attaching to this message. I asked a couple of the folks in the neighborhood if this name sounded familiar and one elderly woman sweeping her walkway smiled wide and sent me toward the diocese offices where I had little luck.

[carubia]

Here is the marriage record of Giuseppe and Giuseppa (with her surname as Lauria) from Siculiana in 1879! Since they had only had a church marriage before 1885 and not a civil one, at the time of the birth of Caterina they were still considered to be legally unmarried.

Here is the baptismal record of Caterina as well, where it says that the parents were married (from the perspective of the church).

The records are attached in the opposite order. The marriage is the one in the upper left whereas the baptism is in the middle right.

[carubia]

I have a couple more records for you. One is Giuseppe Musicau's baptismal record. It doesn't really have any new info, but you might like to have it anyway.

The other is the death record of Gaetana Sergi from Porto Empedocle in 1873. I'm posting the link since it is too big to upload. You can see it in my tree, too.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1946817

[mkukiela]

I have a couple more records for you. One is Giuseppe Musicau's baptismal record. It doesn't really have any new info, but you might like to have it anyway.

The other is the death record of Gaetana Sergi from Porto Empedocle in 1873. I'm posting the link since it is too big to upload. You can see it in my tree, too.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1946817

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Carubia,
I could never thank you enough for all this help. You have answered some lifelong questions all in a matter of days. Bless you!

[carubia]

You're welcome. If you look at my tree you'll also see the birth records of Paolo Lauri and Gaetana Sergi, as well as the death record of Paolo's father, all 3 from Messina. Since Gaetana's parents were only 26 and 21 at the time of her birth in 1826, there's a good chance you can find their marriage record in Messina since the records online start in 1820.

[Clilauri]

Hello to you all. I'm a new member. My great grandfather, Letterio lauri was born in Messina, Sicily. Letterio married Mary Carmen fiorentino. I may of misspelled Mary's surname as it's hard to decipher the hand writing on my grandfather birth certificate. This is all the information I have from my grandfather birth certificate. My late grandfather name is John Baptist Lauri. He was born in Malta and married Maria assunta grech in Malta. I was wondering if anyone has any information about my lauri family in Malta and Sicily? Also any information about my Grech (grandmother) side of the family.

[deckrdshaw]

I am hoping to remedy this.
This Lauri cousin has data she promises to share with me in the future, and I was hoping to find something myself. I noticed in her family tree she has St Lucca or St Lucia for Giuseppa's baptism on 13 Jun 1852 and was born in Messina 11 Jun 1852. This is the first time I had seen a definitive date for her and I was hoping to independently verify this before I order the cemetery marker. Looking at towns in Messina, I noticed Santa Lucia...so I am not sure if Santa Lucia is the church she was baptized in, or the town.

[carubia]

so I am not sure if Santa Lucia is the church she was baptized in, or the town.

It is the parish of Santa Lucia in the city of Messina. The information came from the baptismal section of her civil birth record.