James = Giacomo according to the Miami Consulate?

[b738pilot]

Hello everyone,

I have my appointment in a few months, and there are no birth or marriage records available for my great-grandfather, but his official baptism and death read his father's name as James. My great-great grandfather, through whom I'm applying for, has no naturalization records and his death certificate reads Giacomo. Same last name, no issues with spellings of our last name, but I have no documents reading "giacomo" for my great-grandfather to connect the gap.

My question is, does the Italian consulate recognize "James" as a legit Americanized name for "Giacomo", since that's kinda exactly what Giacomo translates to?

[carubia]

The question is not whether the Miami consulate recognizes James as a "legit Americanized" form of Giacomo , but rather whether the Miami consulate accepts anglicizations in the names of parents of people in your line.

[datxcali]

Hello everyone,

I have my appointment in a few months, and there are no birth or marriage records available for my great-grandfather, but his official baptism and death read his father's name as James. My great-great grandfather, through whom I'm applying for, has no naturalization records and his death certificate reads Giacomo. Same last name, no issues with spellings of our last name, but I have no documents reading "giacomo" for my great-grandfather to connect the gap.

My question is, does the Italian consulate recognize "James" as a legit Americanized name for "Giacomo", since that's kinda exactly what Giacomo translates to?

Are you sure there's no birth or marriage record available for your GGF?

Was he born and married in Italy or a different country?

The lack of a marriage record or birth record for this ancestor might be a bigger problem.

In any event, I did find this: http://italiancitizenship.freeforums.or ... 95-40.html

Consulate: Newark
Date: June 2011
Member: bealudobona's father
bealudobona's father's Line: GGF->GF->F

Accepted (no amendment required):
On GGF's (direct line) death cert, his first name Giacomo his anglicized as James.

Obviously, this was 6 years ago and a different consulate. YMMV.

[b738pilot]

That's good news - about the James = Giacomo, because ammending these documents is impossible for New York, especially when the baptism also reads James.

Yes, he was born 1904 and the people in Maine were very friendly in assisting me and could not find any birth record. Same issue in New York City for his wife, the DOR there searched extensively with different spellings, no birth or marriage either. The only thing I have on my Great Grandparents from vitals are death certificates.

[datxcali]

That's good news - about the James = Giacomo, because ammending these documents is impossible for New York, especially when the baptism also reads James.

Yes, he was born 1904 and the people in Maine were very friendly in assisting me and could not find any birth record. Same issue in New York City for his wife, the DOR there searched extensively with different spellings, no birth or marriage either. The only thing I have on my Great Grandparents from vitals are death certificates.

I'm not sure about Maine, but I, honestly, find it hard to believe that no records exist of your ancestors' birth and marriage in New York City.

If you'd like, you can send me a PM with their info and I could do a search for you. I've become somewhat of a specialist in finding hard-to-find documents in NYC.

[b738pilot]

I'll take you up on that offer!

[dfdemar]

I had my appointment in Miami this month and the consular officer had no problem accepting the Anglicization of Giuseppe->Joseph for my GGF.