Help - Census docs needed? Great Grandfather applied but never naturalized

[JoeyLazz]

Hi all,

I have an upcoming appointment with the Italian Consulate in San Francisco for Citizenship. I am going through my father's paternal side.

I have discovered that my great grandfather (born in Lucca area) applied for naturalization years after my grandfather was born in San Francisco but it was dismissed because the declaration of intent was over 7 years old at the time of the petition. I have a certified copy of his Petition for Naturalization document (and intent document) from the National Archives. It shows my Grandfather was born already.

I completed a search to see if my Great Grandfather ever naturalized and it appeared he did not according to Us Department of Homeland Security.Even thought we know he tried at one point. I obtained a certificate of non existence of record.

My question is do I need to get some sort of census document in addition to all of this? I am not sure if it is needed as we know my granfather was already born by the time my great grandfather applied for naturalization. I see the SF Consulate lists a Census document on their website though so I am unsure if this is something I need. Does anyone know??

Thanks so much!

Joey

[mler]

Yes, the consulate will require a census record (for the decade after your gf’s birth) to confirm the no-naturalization record. You should be able to obtain this through NARA.

The declaration of intent and petition to naturalize are documents that also provide confirmation, and you might want to bring them with you as well. But when in doubt, give the consulate what it asks for (even though logically the census should not be necessary in your case).