Seeking Help With Atti di Nascita

[csalamone1]

Hi All. I'm trying to find my great grandfather's birth record. I *think* that I have found the correct source document, but need some help reading it to hopefully get me over the finish line. I'm thinking this is the correct source document (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817) and I *think* his listing is on page 2173 (3rd column in, first line).

His name was Carmelo Salamone, born 10/28/1892 in Aragona, Sicily. If anyone who is more familiar reading these documents would be willing to lend a hard, I'd very much appreciate your assistance. Thanks all. Kind regards.

[mmogno]

Here the record #166:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817
Carmelo Salamone was born on March 13, 1892 in Aragona (Agrigento) in via Alaimo. Father: Filippo, 28 years old, butcher. Mother: Rosa Sprio, seamstress, wife of Filippo.

Here the baptism #245 (March 14):

[mmogno]

Marriage record #20 for Filippo Salamone and Rosa Sprio. May 24, 1889 in Aragona
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

[mmogno]

Marriage in church #20, May 26, 1889.

[csalamone1]

Mmogno, thank you very much! Unfortunately for me, that is not the Carmelo Salamone that I am looking for. Do you have any suggestions for a next best search method? I’m thinking maybe I’ll go line by line through the 1892 index and look for another Carmelo.

Thanks again,

Carl

[mmogno]

What secure information do you have about the Carmelo Salamone you are looking for?
Parents' names?
Date of birth?
Place of birth?

[csalamone1]

Mmogno, I'm looking for a birth record to use in a Jure Sanguinis citizenship application. I'm thinking this will be my last piece of required documentation. I have all documentation on the U.S. side of his immigration.

The Carmelo Salamone that I am looking for was named Carmelo Dominic Salamone, born 10/28/1892 in Aragona (As stated on his death certificate). His parents' names were Carmelo Salamone (Born 11/23/1862 in Aragona as recorded on his death certificate, I do not have actual birth record) and Marghertia/Margaret/Margurite Cacciatore (Born 1862 in Italy, assuming Aragona, missing exact date and also missing actual birth record).

Thank you for any guidance!

[mmogno]

Carmelo SALAMONE's birth on Nov 9, 1891 at Salita Rosario in Aragona. Registration #440 on Nov 13, 1891.
Father: Carmelo Salamone, 28 yo, butcher.
Mother: Margherita Cacciatore.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Ellis Island
Passenger Record: Salamone, Carmelo
Passenger ID: 102119130268
Frame: 275
Line Number: 30
SHIP NAME:Europa
ARRIVAL DATE: October 28th, 1907
Port of Departure: Napoli

Line #30
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[mmogno]

Marriage for Carmelo Salamone (22 yo, son of late Filippo) and Margherita Cacciatore (16 yo). Record #2, on Jan 10, 1885
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Baptism #445 for Carmelo Maria SALAMONE on Oct 30, 1891. Birth on Oct 29 (!). Parents: Carmelo (son of Filippo) and Margherita Cacciatore.

[csalamone1]

Mmogno, you work magic! Thank you!! There is no way that I would have been able to dig these records up. One question for you - the records appear to be the correct records, yet the baptism would have occurred prior to the birth? Is it common for the dates on these records to be less than exact?

Again, thank you!

Carl

[mmogno]

In the baptism record it is written that Carmelo was baptized on October 30, 1891 and that he was born the previous day (i.e. the 29th). Ego ... baptizavi infantem heri hora 14 natum ...
This is the real date.
The father made the registration in the town hall on November 13, but he should have done it within 10 days of the Carmelo's birth. So he declared a false date of birth (the 9th).

[csalamone1]

Excellent. Thanks for all of your help. Very much appreciated.