Surname Tobia

[roscoepcoletrain]

I am looking to see with the new minor issue if anyone can see if my great great grandfather naturalized

Tommaso Tobia was his name
Augustino Tobia my GGF (have a no record letter)
Louis Tobia my GF
Randy Tobia my dad

[Tessa78]

Can you provide us with a few more details?

When was Tommaso born?
From where did he emigrate?
Where in USA (I am assuming) did he reside?

Meanwhile...
Found this Declaration of Intention to naturalize from Massachusetts.
Tommaso Tobia was born in 1893 in Chieti.
He was residing in Watertown, MA
His wife was Marie.

Tommaso Tobia
in the Massachusetts, U.S., State and Federal Naturalization Records, 1798-1950
Name Tommaso Tobia
Declaration Age 29
Birth Date abt 1894
Record Type Naturalization Declaration
Departure Place Naples Italy
Arrival Place New York, New York
Declaration Date 16 Mar 1923
Ship Madonna
Spouse
Elsie
Marie
Declaration Number 136601

Does any of this sound familiar?

The image...


EDIT TO ADD:

The above Tommaso Tobia was born in Caramanico in 1895. (#25)
His father was Concezio Tobia, 41.
His mother was Maria Sofia Marinucci (as per the annotation of a marriage in 1901.)
Birth on 5 February 1895.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 39/wE2PYNd

T.

[roscoepcoletrain]

I know Augustinos fathers name was
Tommaso Tobia
Mothers name was
Benedicta Scaglini per the italian birth certificate

Born in Montefiascone 1892

[roscoepcoletrain]

Other than that I have no info on Tommaso or Benedicta Scaglini.

Maybe he was a bastard i have no idea

[Tessa78]

For reference purposes...

Here is the birth of Agostino Felice Tobia in Montefiascone in November 1892.
Father is Tommaso Tobia , who is the son of Pietro Tobia.
The mother was unnamed on the record, but the annotation legitimizes the child of Tommaso Tobia and Benedetta Scaglini on 31 July 1902.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 09/0nGNnYl

And...
Here is the marriage of Tommaso Tobia and Benedetta Scaglini on 31 July 1902.
At their marriage they asked to have recognized the 5 children born from their natural union: Giuseppe Cesare, Agostino Felice, Caterina Ida Maria, Salvatore Cesare, and Chiara Maria.
The dates of their births are included in the record.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 80/5GmP8ME

Have not found an arrival manifest for Tommaso.
Are you certain he immigrated?


T.

[Tessa78]

This Publicazione di Matrimonio gives some additional information about Tommaso and Benedetta.

Tommaso Tobia was 42, unmarried, a "garzone" (shop boy. waiter), son of Pietro Tobia, age 68, herbalist; and of Maria Marcucci, housewife.

Benedetta Scaglini was 34, unmarried, housewife, daughter of Giov-Batta Scaglini, age 70, laborer; and of Virginia Chicchirichi, housewife.

https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 43/wRP7QMV

T.

[roscoepcoletrain]

Thank you for the response. I have not seen a manifest for the arrival of Tommaso.

Someone sent me one for Augustino a couple years ago but it was incorrect. Had him coming with Father Biagio

[roscoepcoletrain]

This Publicazione di Matrimonio gives some additional information about Tommaso and Benedetta.

Tommaso Tobia was 42, unmarried, a "garzone" (shop boy. waiter), son of Pietro Tobia, age 68, herbalist; and of Maria Marcucci, housewife.

Benedetta Scaglini was 34, unmarried, housewife, daughter of Giov-Batta Scaglini, age 70, laborer; and of Virginia Chicchirichi, housewife.

https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 43/wRP7QMV

T.

I did some digging on Ellis island and I see one Tommaso Tobia arriving in 1920 but he was born the same year my GGGF woukd have been.

I could not find my GGF on a manifest for some reason

[roscoepcoletrain]

This Publicazione di Matrimonio gives some additional information about Tommaso and Benedetta.

Tommaso Tobia was 42, unmarried, a "garzone" (shop boy. waiter), son of Pietro Tobia, age 68, herbalist; and of Maria Marcucci, housewife.

Benedetta Scaglini was 34, unmarried, housewife, daughter of Giov-Batta Scaglini, age 70, laborer; and of Virginia Chicchirichi, housewife.

https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 43/wRP7QMV

T.

This actually may be Agostino's ship manifest though the age is off. Says he is 13 in 1910. Which probably should be 17

The other thing that sticks out is him travelling (I assume) with an Antonia a 7YO female. No other recognizable last names on the manifest. That was not a child's name you listed above

Even back then I doubt they would have let a 13yo and 7 yo travel alone?

https://heritage.statueofliberty.org/pa ... 5nZXIiOw==

[mmogno]

Agostino and Antonia Tobia travelled with their mother Rosaria Milana, Biagio Tobia's wife, and came from Calatafini.

[truonganna]

This is the wisdom I spent my thirties searching for! we become what we behold If only I could have learned it sooner!

[roscoepcoletrain]

Agostino and Antonia Tobia travelled with their mother Rosaria Milana, Biagio Tobia's wife, and came from Calatafini.

They are no relation to me but I missed them on the manifest