Hi all,
Can someone please help me with translating this old military document.
After the bottom name translation, Anselmo Porta.
Thanks so much.
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This is a copy of the Liste di Leva (Conscript List) which gives Anselmo Porta's name, his parents’ names, place of birth, date of birth, etc which you probably already know. I’m understanding that he didn’t pass the medical/physical test due to “chest tightness” (sistrettenza di torace).
Angela
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Thanks Angela,AngelaGrace56 wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 06:16 This is a copy of the Liste di Leva (Conscript List) which gives Anselmo Porta's name, his parents’ names, place of birth, date of birth, etc which you probably already know. I’m understanding that he didn’t pass the medical/physical test due to “chest tightness” (sistrettenza di torace).
Angela
Makes sense now as to why they sent this and not his matriculation sheet, he never made it in the army by the looks.
Thanks so much again.
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@AngelaGrace56AngelaGrace56 wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 06:16 This is a copy of the Liste di Leva (Conscript List) which gives Anselmo Porta's name, his parents’ names, place of birth, date of birth, etc which you probably already know. I’m understanding that he didn’t pass the medical/physical test due to “chest tightness” (sistrettenza di torace).
Angela
Riformato (= non idoneo permanentemente) per ristrettezza del torace Centimetri 79 1/2
Sotto gli 80 cm di torace si era riformati.
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Happy to help, Joe. Sorry I misread a word there. It should read "ristrettezza del torace". Refer to mmogno's post above.porta1412 wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 23:56Thanks Angela,AngelaGrace56 wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 06:16 This is a copy of the Liste di Leva (Conscript List) which gives Anselmo Porta's name, his parents’ names, place of birth, date of birth, etc which you probably already know. I’m understanding that he didn’t pass the medical/physical test due to “chest tightness” (sistrettenza di torace).
Angela
Makes sense now as to why they sent this and not his matriculation sheet, he never made it in the army by the looks.
Thanks so much again.
Angela
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mmogno wrote: 04 Nov 2025, 00:52@AngelaGrace56AngelaGrace56 wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 06:16 This is a copy of the Liste di Leva (Conscript List) which gives Anselmo Porta's name, his parents’ names, place of birth, date of birth, etc which you probably already know. I’m understanding that he didn’t pass the medical/physical test due to “chest tightness” (sistrettenza di torace).
Angela
Riformato (= non idoneo permanentemente) per ristrettezza del torace Centimetri 79 1/2
Sotto gli 80 cm di torace si era riformati.
@mmogno
Thanks for the word correction and also the explanation. I wondered whether it had something to do with the chest measurement as I've seen this reason given before on other military records.
Angela
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Sì, è così. Anselmo Porta è stato ritenuto definitivamente non idoneo a fare il servizio militare, perché, alla visita medica di leva, è risultato che aveva la circonferenza del torace di 79 centimetri e mezzo, inferiore a quella minima richiesta, che era di 80 centimentri.
Sì, è così. Anselmo Porta è stato ritenuto definitivamente non idoneo a fare il servizio militare, perché, alla visita medica di leva, è risultato che aveva la circonferenza del torace di 79 centimetri e mezzo, inferiore a quella minima richiesta, che era di 80 centimentri.
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mmogno wrote: 04 Nov 2025, 14:38 @AngelaGrace56
Sì, è così. Anselmo Porta è stato ritenuto definitivamente non idoneo a fare il servizio militare, perché, alla visita medica di leva, è risultato che aveva la circonferenza del torace di 79 centimetri e mezzo, inferiore a quella minima richiesta, che era di 80 centimentri.
Great. Thank you for confirming, G.
Angela
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Hi Angela and mmogno,
Thanks so much to you both for this translation and clarification.
Its so greatly appreciated, and could not do it without you both.
Thanks
Joe
Thanks so much to you both for this translation and clarification.
Its so greatly appreciated, and could not do it without you both.
Thanks
Joe
