Alessandro Carpentieri

[MaddalenaNYC]

Hello. It’s recently come to my attention that my grandfather, Pasquale Carpentieri, was closely related to an Alessandro Carpentieri.
Alessandro was born Italy circa 1861. Died, I believe in Italy in 1914.
His wife’s name was Urzola.

They had two sons born in Italy, Giuseppe circa 1891 and Emilio born 1896.

Born sons came to the States and remained here.
I’m looking for Alessandro’s birth, marriage, and death acts.


Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[MaddalenaNYC]

I have more info. Alessandro’s son, Emilio, was born in San Giorgio la Montana, Benevento

December 1896.

Mother’s maiden name looks like Cirelli or Terilli.

I’m looking to find the names of Alessandro’s parents.

[Tessa78]

For reference... Here is the birth act of Emilio Carpentieri in 1896
#107
Father: Alessandro, age 36, farmer
Mother: Orsola Cirelli, his wife, landowner
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 79/5K9xZ9Q

Note- : San Giorgio la Montagna is now San Giorgio del Sannio

Here is the birth act in 1860 for Alessandro Carpentieri(#26)
Father is Giuseppe [son of deceased Angelantonio], age 44.
Mother is Anna Maria de Pietro, age 38, his wife.
Birth on 25 September 1860.

https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 55/04k1rQQ

T.

[MaddalenaNYC]

Oh Tessa,
You are wonderful!

But this information sort of mucks up my theory. My theory is that there had to have been a familial connection between Alessandro and my grandfather, Pasquale Carpentieri born 1881 in Benevento.

Here’s the whole story.

I recently came upon my great uncle’s marriage certificate. Great Uncle Arthur, whom I had known, was married in 1925 in Manhattan to Isabella LaBanco. I also knew Aunt Izzy.

Uncle Arturo was my grandfather’s baby brother.


They both, Arturo and Isabella, lived at 30 Hamilton Street in Manhattan. Not only is the building gone but the street is gone!

One of the witnesses to their marriage was Emilio Carpentieri.

Who the heck is Emilio Carpentieri? I had never heard anyone in my family mention that name.

Well, we find Emilio also at 30 Hamilton Street circa 1925.
Alessandro and his son, Giuseppe came to America in 1905. Alessandro is 44 and Guiseppe is 14 years old.

Their contact in the states is Raffele Carpentieri who was, most likely, my great uncle Ralph. Alessandro lists Raffele as his nephew on the ship’s manifest.

In 1914, Giuseppe marries in NYC and one of the witnesses is Raffele Carpentieri.

Giuseppe’s address is 480 College Avenue in the Bronx, my grandfather’s home.

I’m thinking that I need to go farther back. It’s apparent that Alessandro and my grandfather were not brothers but, perhaps, first cousins?


My grandfather, Pasquale Carpentieri was born 1881. His parents were Giovanni Carpentieri and Maria Tirelli. I have the birth acts for five of their children.

This is driving me crazy.

Any advice?

Thank you, Tessa.


P

[Tessa78]

Can you post the birth act of Pasquale's oldest child?

Where exactly was Pasquale Carpentieri born? I am not finding him in Benevento comune.

T.

[MaddalenaNYC]

My grandfather, Pasquale Carpentieri was born in 1881 to parents Giovanni Carpentieri and Maria Terilli in Benevento,

All of my grandfather’s children were born in NYC, there were nine of them, two dying as infants.

I have all of that data.

But Giovanni and Maria Carpentieri had five children born in Italy; Angelo Raffele (Uncle Ralph), Pasquale, Antonia, Concetta, and Arturo.

Angelo Raffele, Pasquale, and Arturo came to America, lived and died here.

Uncle Ralph and my grandfather died before I was born but I did know Uncle Arthur.

I don’t believe that Antonia or Concetta emigrated.

That being said, my Aunt Anne Carpentieri and my Aunt Concetta Carpentieri both of whom I knew were born in the Bronx and were obviously named after my grandfather’s sisters back in the old country.

[Tessa78]

I believe this is your Pasquale... But the surname is spelled Carpentiero

Born 27 October 1881 in San Nazzaro Calvi, Benevento.
#72
Father is Giovanni Carpentiero, 36, landowner
Mother is Maria Tirelli, his wife, landowner.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 53/5vEeEnq

Here is another Pasquale born to the couple in 1879, and who most likely died.
#40
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 73/LPaBaZd

T.

[Tessa78]

AND...

Birth act of Angelo Raffaele in January 1878, also in San Nazzaro Calvi.
#3
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 32/5VpBpdv

also...

Birth of daughter Angiolina in January 1884 in San Nazzaro Calvi
#1
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 28/0ZnBVdB

T.

[MaddalenaNYC]

Tessa, as they say in England, you are a diamond. As they say in America, you are a gem.

Meaning of course that you are wonderful!

Yes, yes, the birth acts that you have posted are of my family.

To some of us, and I believe many of us on this forum, the names are important as it is our lineage.

We may not have known personally these ancestors but they are a part of us.

Not just the names but physical attributes. For example, there is something I call Carpentieri eyes.

Most of the Carpentieris I’ve known and photos of those I hadn’t known, all have Hazel brown flashing eyes.

At my brother’s Wake in 2010, a young man walked in,

I immediately asked him, “Which Carpentieri are you?”

“How do you know that I’m Carpentieri?”

“it’s your eyes, “ I replied.

It turned out that he was one of my Great Uncle Arturo Carpentieri’s grandsons.

Then there are the long fingers. Elegant hands with long fingers.

I’m not sure which side of my family inherited that trait. It might have been from the Ligurian side.

The hands are akways the same from generation to generation.

I thank you so much again for all of your help.

Maddalena

Named after my maternal grandmother, Maddalena Casazza Carpentieri.

[Tessa78]

So very happy to help

How you speak of your family and ancestors is like a Big Hug!

T.