Using DNA Matches

[darkerhorse]

Mattia (Matthew) and some of the given names you cite have Hebrew origins.

Have you searched outside Italy?

[MarcuccioV]

Have you searched marriage allegati, which can include transcribed records of births, deceased parents, spouses, etc.

The only Allegati available (Family Search) are after ALL of the family marriages. I can't find any children of my grandfather's sisters, either. Two of those sisters died young (likely in childbirth) & one only lived 9 months; I believe another remained childless.

[MarcuccioV]

Furthermore I have no DNA matches with surnames from my grandfather's sisters except for the childless one (Gentilina), but it is the same surname as my grandfather's uncle by marriage on his maternal side...

There are about 5 with that surname (Bucci), but they are from different parts of Italy so that leads me nowhere...

[MarcuccioV]

Mattia (Matthew) and some of the given names you cite have Hebrew origins.

Have you searched outside Italy?

There is Levant to a minute extent so I assume that may have been from Roman conquest...

[darkerhorse]

Some clergy moved to Rome. Any religious in that line?

[darkerhorse]

My parents grew up with a neighbor surnamed Matties from Campania.

Is that a variant you're searching?

[MarcuccioV]

Some clergy moved to Rome. Any religious in that line?

No, None that I can find. My grandparents were married in the Catholic church in town (Santa Maria Assunta). Right up the street was the Eastern Orthodox church (Santo Stefano). my grandmother's family was Catholic; as for my grandfather's, I don't know for sure. I always believed it was Catholic as well. Vito lived around the corner from Santo Stefano after the war, but I doubt that means anything...

No Sephardic Jewish in the DNA...

[MarcuccioV]

My parents grew up with a neighbor surnamed Matties from Campania.

Is that a variant you're searching?

Matties doesn't come up on the surname map -- perhaps it was an Amercanization..? Or mispelled upon US arrival & kept..?

No DNA matches for Matties.

[darkerhorse]

My parents grew up with a neighbor surnamed Matties from Campania.

Is that a variant you're searching?

Matties doesn't come up on the surname map -- perhaps it was an Amercanization..? Or mispelled upon US arrival & kept..?

No DNA matches for Matties.

Probably.

[darkerhorse]

At least you can hold out the possibility of getting access to local records someday which can take you back to 1820 and beyond.

Are you planning to visit Valmontone?
Do you have a relative there who could do research?
Are you willing to hire a professional researcher?
Does Valmontone have a sister city in the U.S.?

[MarcuccioV]

At least you can hold out the possibility of getting access to local records someday which can take you back to 1820 and beyond.

Are you planning to visit Valmontone?
Do you have a relative there who could do research?
Are you willing to hire a professional researcher?
Does Valmontone have a sister city in the U.S.?

No plans to visit at present.

No living relatives that I know of.

Can't afford it at present.

No US sister city. Only Spain, Germany & Azerbaijan...

[darkerhorse]

A perfect score.

[MarcuccioV]

About the closest to a sister city would be Detroit, as many of my grandparent's neighbors there were from Valmontone. But not in the same vein as your Melilli/CT connection...