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[Tessa78]

I have been trying, like yourself, to piece together a timeline of the addresses.
I was able to find some newspaper entries related to 388 Broome and 46 Mulberry, but I am not sure they provide any value. I have posted the links below.

1900 Mortage transfer by a Mr. Kaufman to Corn Exchange Bank for 388 Broome/178 Mulberry St. building for 25,000. (23 May 1900) [4th column]
http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/hi ... Page=false

This story is about a drowning rescue by the son of an Italian Banker (Stephen Cava, son of banker Carmine Cava, of 46 Mulberry St.) in 1896 [Last column]
http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/hi ... Page=false

T.

[stfrancis]

Thank you. Building & occupant research is very difficult.

Carmine Cava immigrated circa 1870-1880. Naturalized in 1880. Carmine Cava was saloon operator and banker. His wife was Mary (Esposito??...Stigliana(i)???). They lived many years at 40-46 Mulberry. They had several children, some are Mary,Steve,Frank,Emilia,Kate. Carmine died in 1910. She died in 1914. His parents are Stefano, and Maria Laino. Her parents are Stefano, and Maria Pezzini.

Since Lilly Florio and Cava's are close, it would be interesting to know if they are related, how, and where they came from in Italy, especially if it's from the Salerno, or Sala locations...

I attach the 1900 Census for Cava at 46 Mulberry. The name is indexed as CaRa (line 11):

[Tessa78]

Carmine's wife's surname appears to be Stigliano, based on this SS application for son Stefano.


Carmine Cava in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 No Image

Name: Carmine Cava
Gender: Male
Spouse: Mary E Stigliano
Child: Stephen James Cava

T.

[stfrancis]

Sounds correct, on most of the childrens' documents, her name appears as Stigliano, (or sometimes Stigliana and variations) . (On 2 other documents the names Esprite and Esposeto appear)

The names Stigliano(a) appear most prominent in the Basilicata region according to the Italianames website. Cava name appears mostly in Calabria, and Campania regions.

[Tessa78]

From the marriage certificate you have for Louis and Lilly - can you tell me:

What is Lilly's age?
What place of birth does she list?
Does she list the names of her parents?

T.

[stfrancis]

Her info is here: https://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/ ... logy/41421

She was born in NYC in 1878. Her parents are Michele Florio and Caterina Gorga. Her parents are from Sala Consilina.

[Tessa78]

Her info is here: https://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/ ... logy/41421

She was born in NYC in 1878. Her parents are Michele Florio and Caterina Gorga. Her parents are from Sala Consilina.

You wondered if the Florio and Cava families were possibly from the same location in Italy.
You mention that Michael Florio was from Sala Consilina...
The Cava surname is also found in Sala Consilina...

Italian phone book (landlines) shows 15 listings for Cava
https://www.paginebianche.it/ricerca?qs ... a+%28SA%29

EDIT TO ADD***
I do not know if you already have this...
Here is the index for births 1845 in Sala Concilina for Michelearcangelo Florio - you will notice that his mother's surname is Gorga (you might also notice that the birth above that has a mother whose surname is Cava )
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

Birth Act of Michelarcangelo Florio (#219) in 1845 in Sala Consilina
Birth on 15 Decembr 1845 to Luigi Florio, 27, stonecutter; and to Feliciana Goga, 24, his wife. Baptism on the same day in the Parish of San Leone.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

Here is birth of Maria Caterina Gorga in Sala in 1845 (#82)
Birth on 29 Apil 1845 to Vincenzo Gorga, 46, shoemaker; and to Teresa Petrazzuolo, 40, his wife. Baptism on the 30th at the Parish of San Nicola.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0








T.

[Tessa78]

The Cava and Florio families were both from Sala Consilina

Birth Act of Carmine Cava in 1848 in Sala Consilina (#126)
Born on 23 June 1848, to Stefano Cava, 28, farmer; and to Maria Laino, 32, his wife.
Baptised on the 24th at the Parish of San Pietro.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 9.jpg.html

NOTE: There is a typo for the mother's surname in my translation of Michelearcangelo Florio's birth that I posted. It should read "Gorga"

T.

[stfrancis]

Excellent. I suspected it, but now it's confirmed. Thank you.

I have most of 1840's information for those Florio's and Gorga's you referenced in Italy, but was having issues with the Cava name.

Were the witnesses generally friends or relatives to the parties concerned ?

[Tessa78]

Excellent. I suspected it, but now it's confirmed. Thank you.

I have most of 1840's information for those Florio's and Gorga's you referenced in Italy, but was having issues with the Cava name.

Were the witnesses generally friends or relatives to the parties concerned ?

For the births in Italy, usually the witnesses were persons who happen to be at the town office, possibly on business. Sometimes, you will see a family member who accompanied the declarer as a witness, but not usually.


I tried searching for Maria Stigliano's birth in 1853 (based on her age in one of the censuses), but 1851 - 1854 are missing
Will continue to search for the marriages...

T.

[stfrancis]

Yes, I noticed the 1852 Index is missing.

(I noticed there is also a town named "Stigliano" in Matera...)

Thank you regarding the information on the birth witness. For the marriage witness is it the same principle ?

[Tessa78]

In the marriage record for Carmine and Maria her surname is Esposito, and she is of "unknown parents."
It is likely, if her surname was changed to Stigliano, that her parents "recognized" her as their legitimate daughter at a later date. Do you know what name she used when she emigrated from Italy?

Here is the marriage of Carmine Cava and Maria Esposito (#22) in 1870
Dated 2 May in Sala Consilina
Groom: Carmine Cava, unmarried minor, age 22, son of Stefano and of deceased Maria Laino
Bride: Maria Esposito, unmarried minor, age 19, daughter of unknown parents
Both spouses are farmers and residents of this town and wish to be united in marriage. The publication of the banns of marriage were made 3 times and there was no opposition to the marriage.

Begins bottom right on this page
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=680012

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Here is the marriage of Michelarcangelo Florio and Maria Caterina Gorga in 1871 in Sala Consilina. Dated 11 October (#56)
Groom: Michelarcangelo Florio, unmarried, 25, son of Luigi and of Feliciano Gorga
Bride: Maria Caterina Gorga, unmarried, 26, daughter of Vincenzo and of deceased Teresa Petrazzuolo
The groom signed the record as Michele Arcangelo Florio.

Begins bottom right
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=680012


As to witnesses - yes, same thing for marriages. This can vary in earliest records... and usually witnesses at the church, for baptism and marriage, are family.

T.

[stfrancis]

Wow, that is an answer to the mystery, you did a big find with that marriage record.

I have not searched much on her arrival from Italy. But one of the earliest of her children's birth shows the name Esprite (which I assume is Esposito). On most documents its Stigliano.

[Tessa78]

Michelarcangelo Florio's mother's given name is Feliciana.
Sorry about the typo.

T.

[stfrancis]

Thank you Tessa.

I am attaching a naturalization act for an UNKOWN Michael A Florio(?). It's a special one for a Minor. I'm trying to determine his age based on all the stipulated residency durations.

Our MichelArcangelo was born in 1846. I know he resided 8 years in NYC up to his death in 1880. So he arrived about 1873.

Based on the naturalization document for the UNKNOWN MichaeI A. I calculate a birth of around 1854-1855...I'm not sure I am understanding the document correctly, and I am trying to rule him out.