Today I received from the Comune Di Napoli a ' Estratto per riassunto dal regisro degli atti di Nascita ' of my grandmother's birth. Does this certificate satisfy the NY consulate's estratto dell’atto di nascita birth certificate requirement or is it a completely different document?

Also, I am ...

Teddi its actually just a Google Book Search preview that posts a portion of a book. Just post the nice short link below in your address bar. Refer to page 11, #22, 'Childs Residence'.

http://books.google.com/books?id=OdZu2TNnqWEC&dq=the+citizenship+flowchart+by&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots ...

Teddi, from what I looked at, it looks like 1929 marks the year when family information was no longer included on the naturalization certificate. Up to then there was a specific section to list spouses and children.

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't USCIS automatically look for an alien file in ...

After you originally mentioned it teddi I did a quick google images search for certificates of naturalization and it looked to me that it depended on the year the certificate was issued if spouses and children were listed on it or not. By the 1940s it seemed family info was no longer on it.

The ...

I do have a copy of the ship manifest and he had an immigrant visa number but was not a U.S. citizen. The ship manifest shows U.S. citizen stamped next to the names of those who were citizens.

But where I have been going with this is just maybe if somebody along the way forgot to do or get ...

So If my GF did receive derivative citizenship I'm assuming there should be no records of his naturalization. He would only be listed on my GGF's certificate of naturalization. So I would need to get a copy my GGF certificate of naturalization to confirm GF citizenship. Is this right?

If GF did ...

So in an attempt to determine naturalization will USCIS also look for derivative citizenship based on a father's naturalization certificate as well as an individual's attempt to naturalize?

Is it safe to say then that regardless of what actually might have happened as long as there are no records ...

Makes sense concerning being on the naturalization certificate vs the petition. However this touches on a question I asked in an earlier post.

From what I understand minor children residing overseas automatically derived citizenship from the naturalizing father as long as they came to the U.S ...

I do have my GGF Petition for Citizenship, and my GF is listed on it as one of his children (residing in Italy).

So your saying derivative citizenship would have been conferred to the minor child by simply listing the childs name on the Petition back then. And also the father's Petition could be ...

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