Very cool! The names don't sound too familiar from our family but you never know....there are a bunch of Ciottis there.....thanks!

Joe Venezia

Hi Wendy!

Wait a minute....did you just friend request me on FB? Was trying to figure out who that was from!

I am not sure as there were a couple of Antonio Ciottis from Roccagorga (believe it or not!). Most of our family is down in CT but it is entirely possible. He married my grandmother ...

I found an immigration record on ancestry.com for a Giuseppe Fino (b.1872) from Atripalda....would make sense, no....or coincidence?????

Ciao,
Joe

Haa haa! You need to go to your local Family History Center.....click on the link I had in there and put in your state to find one close to you. Then you need to go to the local Center/church and order the microfilm records....you view them there....make sense?

Joe V.

Hi Sara,

Go back to my post on 11/30 at 7:39pm.....click on the Family Search hyperlink....Messina civil records are available which should have his birth record from 1900:

Nati 1901-1904 - FHL INTL [ 1642245 ]

This is the film you want to order from your local Family History Center:

http://www ...

WOW!!!! Thanks to Anthony Vermandois and his Campania, Italy website....fairly complete Manfredonia and Valerio lineage from Atripalda:

http://www.imaginesmaiorum.net/surnames ... n.cfm?id=8

Ciao,
Joe V.

Oh...they definitely would....I only have out on loan the birth records until 1849.....and they go back to 1809 so you might be able to find a couple of generations before Serafino/Giuseppa. Here is the film number which should have their particular birth registries:

Nati 1850-1865 Pubblicazioni ...

Here you are....not really much there:

Hi Diane,

I was at the Family History Center last night and only have the microfilms of birth records until 1849. But, this looks like Serafino's death record/certificate # from NYC:

Manfredonia Serafino 49 y Nov 18 1910 Certificate # 22671 Kings

You can order a copy of this online from the NYC ...

Sorry....don't think the link worked....here you go:

It looks like Eugene was definitely born in Atripalda (May 27, 1881)....if this is him:

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=1002&iid=NY-2370181-5959&fn=Eugene&ln=Manfredonia&st=r&ssrc=&pid=1305430

This birth date is different than the date listed above (Nov. 1880).....was his wife ...

Hi Diane,

I have done quite a bit of research on the town of Atripalda since that is where my ancestors are from.....I know I have seen Manfredonias on some of the civil records....I only remember the name because we had a Principal Manfredonia growing up and it stood out!

I may still have some ...

OK...and one more....guessing this is your Great Grandfather Paul's death record/certificate (Vermont?).....born June 29, 1900 in Messina, Sicily....father was Anthony Tortorella but mother is unlisted:

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=1607&iid=31394_204012-00476&fn=Paul&ln ...

OK...and one more....guessing this is your Great Grandfather Paul's death record/certificate (Vermont?).....born June 29, 1900 in Messina, Sicily....father was Anthony Tortorella but mother is unlisted:

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=1607&iid=31394_204012-00476&fn=Paul&ln ...

...and your great grandmother Carmela's 1920 NYC Census Record:

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn=Carmela+&gsln=Maratano&cpxt=0&catBucket=rstp&uidh=27q&cp=0&pcat=ROOT_CATEGORY&h=110370282&recoff=1+2+14+25&db=1920usfedcen&indiv=1