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by kitcatlvr
23 Jan 2022, 23:27
Forum: Emigration, Immigration, Naturalization and Italian citizenship
Topic: Just moved and looking at a new consulates reqs.
Replies: 6
Views: 983

Just moved and looking at a new consulates reqs.

Okay, I just moved and now fall into the Philly consulate area. According to their document saying what documents you need, if the ancestor never naturalized and it says "italian" on the Death Cert that further proof isn't needed? They don't mention NARA, USCIS, or the census documents to ...
by kitcatlvr
04 Oct 2020, 22:05
Forum: Emigration, Immigration, Naturalization and Italian citizenship
Topic: Here's a pickle regarding the 1912 and 1948 laws
Replies: 10
Views: 2050

Re: Here's a pickle regarding the 1912 and 1948 laws

I really wonder what happens if the census says "NA" as well. Because, like, lots of people lie on the census, especially if they fear deportation. Or they started the process and didn't understand the question. So, what happens when the certified census says that? I think since we came fr...
by kitcatlvr
04 Oct 2020, 09:21
Forum: Emigration, Immigration, Naturalization and Italian citizenship
Topic: Here's a pickle regarding the 1912 and 1948 laws
Replies: 10
Views: 2050

Re: Here's a pickle regarding the 1912 and 1948 laws

Good luck, I did get a "no records exist" for my Grandfather, but he also listed "NA" on the census forms and NARA mentioned this in the letter that would be sent along to gain citizenship, it also said prior to 1906 local courthouse. Thanks! As of today I've contacted all the c...
by kitcatlvr
01 Oct 2020, 06:37
Forum: Emigration, Immigration, Naturalization and Italian citizenship
Topic: Here's a pickle regarding the 1912 and 1948 laws
Replies: 10
Views: 2050

Re: Here's a pickle regarding the 1912 and 1948 laws

You may want to check the County Courthouse your relative lived in as NARA will note Census records and this: Naturalization activity prior to September 27, 1906, was under the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts. Naturalization records may be found in Federal, State, or local court records. Thank...
by kitcatlvr
01 Oct 2020, 05:57
Forum: Emigration, Immigration, Naturalization and Italian citizenship
Topic: Need help! Obtaining Italian stamps
Replies: 2
Views: 766

Re: Need help! Obtaining Italian stamps

https://www.stampworld.com/en_US/stamps/global/all/ On the right hand side there is an "Advance Search" option. Choose it. Then choose Italy as the country of Origin from the drop down menu. Then, on the far right of second line of drop down options you can choose the type of stamp. There ...
by kitcatlvr
26 Sep 2020, 09:28
Forum: Emigration, Immigration, Naturalization and Italian citizenship
Topic: My dad does NOT want to become an Italian citizen...
Replies: 1
Views: 720

My dad does NOT want to become an Italian citizen...

And this is a problem because I'm afraid it'll mean that he'll refuse to sign form 3 of the consulate documents, since it would basically make him a citizen too ("In reference to the applicant's request for recognition of Italian Citizenship Jure Sanguinis, and being aware that the undersigned ...
by kitcatlvr
25 Sep 2020, 00:49
Forum: Italian History & Culture
Topic: Babies and Personal Hygiene before Soap
Replies: 5
Views: 7488

Re: Babies and Personal Hygiene before Soap

rp76226 wrote: 24 Sep 2020, 13:39Thank you.
No problem! I'm a historical recreator and people definitely ask questions like that all the time!
by kitcatlvr
24 Sep 2020, 09:13
Forum: Italian History & Culture
Topic: Babies and Personal Hygiene before Soap
Replies: 5
Views: 7488

Re: Babies and Personal Hygiene before Soap

Well, it wasn't ideal and it certainly wasn't hygenic by today's standards. But people would dig outhouses. Bed pans were used regularly. People did wash, but it was normally sponge bath style things. They didn't get in tubs. While people didn't have a lot of clothes, most of the clothes were wool a...
by kitcatlvr
24 Sep 2020, 04:57
Forum: Emigration, Immigration, Naturalization and Italian citizenship
Topic: Here's a pickle regarding the 1912 and 1948 laws
Replies: 10
Views: 2050

Re: Here's a pickle regarding the 1912 and 1948 laws

You’re right in that the pre-1912 naturalization complicates matters, but your gggm would never have naturalized since she obtained US citizenship from her husband. Since she was listed as “alien” on the census, it’s quite possible that your gggf did NOT naturalize, and that would simplify matters ...
by kitcatlvr
23 Sep 2020, 23:02
Forum: Locations in Italy
Topic: Isola delle Femmine, Sicily
Replies: 6
Views: 1924

Re: Isola delle Femmine, Sicily

I could not find Maria in 1883. There's one, born in 1882, Sep 1st: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-997B-N95G?i=1192&cc=2051639&cat=487686 maybe it's her? However, if she was born in 1883, how could they marry in 1888? Oops! my finger slipped, I mean 1898! But huh. All the ...
by kitcatlvr
23 Sep 2020, 22:36
Forum: Locations in Italy
Topic: Isola delle Femmine, Sicily
Replies: 6
Views: 1924

Re: Isola delle Femmine, Sicily

OMG You guys are the best! I kept searching FamilySearch but clearly you guys are pros!
by kitcatlvr
23 Sep 2020, 08:51
Forum: Locations in Italy
Topic: Isola delle Femmine, Sicily
Replies: 6
Views: 1924

Isola delle Femmine, Sicily

Hello! So I am looking for some birth & marriage records from Isolla delle Femmine. I found the online/ digitized archives that Palermo keeps, however they only go until 1865. My ancestors were born and married after that. Here's the info: Giuseppe Billeci - born approximately 03-18-1873 Mariett...
by kitcatlvr
21 Sep 2020, 10:11
Forum: Emigration, Immigration, Naturalization and Italian citizenship
Topic: Here's a pickle regarding the 1912 and 1948 laws
Replies: 10
Views: 2050

Here's a pickle regarding the 1912 and 1948 laws

So, My great great grandfather may have naturalized to the US before his death in 1910 (I'm awaiting a response from my local NARA branch, but alas covid). His son, my great grandfather was born after his death in 1910. So, at the time my GGGM would have automatically lost her citizenship due to her...
by kitcatlvr
21 Sep 2020, 05:06
Forum: Emigration, Immigration, Naturalization and Italian citizenship
Topic: Do I qualify for dual citizenship--confused about Law 555/1912
Replies: 3
Views: 990

Re: Do I qualify for dual citizenship--confused about Law 555/1912

I am JUST staring out, but I found these blog posts that discuss the issue. I do not know how it applies in court, as they only discuss how it impacts consulates. https://www.italianpapers.it/1574/loss-of-italian-citizenship-1865-1912-issue/ https://www.italianpapers.it/1620/loss-of-italian-citizens...