DeMarinis/Porrazzo/Addonizio; also Lamantia/LoBocchiaro

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I'm tracking again!

1. I couldn't get to this manifest mentioned below via Ancestry or Castle Garden for the older records using "C. Antonio Purrazzo" as you have below. I also tried alternate spellings with no luck. :cry:

Do you know what ship manifest you found this name on?

2. Also, today, I received the marriage certificate from NY for Enrico DeMarinis and Luisa Porazzo. It shows one "r" in Luisa's name, though I have seen two elsewhere.

Enrico's mother's name show up as Teresa Iantosca or possibly Jantosca and I seriously doubt that J spelling. The handwriting on the certificate uses the J and I with the exact same writing style. I had thought her last name was Fantosca...not so. :o

Could you check "Iantosca" out?

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Tessa78 wrote:
theograd wrote:
Tessa78 wrote:POSSIBLE manifest for Luisa's father Carmine Antonio... :)

He indicated on the 1900 Census that he arrived in 1883.
You stated that he was from Avellino
His birth date is May 1850 by 1900 Census.

This arrival is May 3, 1883 to NY
Passenger 305 is "C. Antonio Purrazzo (sp?)"
He is from Avellino
Age is stated as 33 which would put date of birth about 1850 (pretty close :-) )

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From what source did you obtain this DeMarinis manifest? It was great for me to see it! I believe it is correct one.
This manifest is for C. Antonio Purazzo, not DeMarinis :-)
I found it at Ancestry.com

I have been searching for information about Lamantia and Addonizio, but have not been successful as yet! DeMarinis as well. Will keep looking...

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0004. Guccione, Filippa [A clue? I don't know who this is. They were going to another Guccione in NYC.]M 12y S Italy Misilmeri
Giuseppe and family were going to Ciro Guccione @ 267 Elizabeth St. NYC -
BUT... Filippa was going "to parents Ciro Coculo" - Ring a bell?
0005. Lo Bocchiaro, Guiseppa [a sister of Antonina? Again, I don't know.]
F 19y S Italy Misilmeri
Notation for Giuseppa Lo Bocchiaro says "sister of No. 2" - so, yes, this would be a sister.

ALSO - there is a Francesco Lamantia, 48, shoemaker from Misilmeri (line 16) going to the same ADDRESS on Elizabeth St., but to a "Francesco LaSusa". Traveling with him is Giuseppe Susa, age 7, from Misilmeri.

They are definitely all listed from Misilmeri as last residence.

Perhaps a search of Giuseppa Lo Bocchiaro (marriage, death records) could provide more verification of place of BIRTH.

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I have no idea who Guccione or Coculo would be. Will see what I come up with. also, no knowledge of a Francesco or his contacts.
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Tessa78 wrote:In NYC marriage index...
Could be Antonina's sister? Slight variation of the spelling of surname.

Lobocchiero Guiseppa May 15 1899 8477 Manhattan
Faranda Nicolo May 16 1899 Manhattan 8477


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Again, I never heard these names before. Will try to follow up as per last post I sent before this one. :|
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1. I couldn't get to this manifest mentioned below via Ancestry or Castle Garden for the older records using "C. Antonio Purrazzo" as you have below. I also tried alternate spellings with no luck. :cry:

Do you know what ship manifest you found this name on?
The manifest for "C. Antonio Purrazzo" for 1883 is on Ancestry.

Arriving NY 3 May 1883 on the SS Archimede.


Here is the link to the Ancestry page (will only work if you have a subscription)
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=Vi ... d=12404319

Here is information from the Ancestry index page...

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
(indexed as PURZZO and written on manifest as PURRAZZO)
Name: C Antonio Purzzo
Arrival Date: 3 May 1883
Birth Year: abt 1850
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Place of Origin: Avellino,Italy
Port of Departure: Messina, Sicily and Palermo, Italy
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Archimede

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theograd wrote:
Tessa78 wrote:In NYC marriage index...
Could be Antonina's sister? Slight variation of the spelling of surname.

Lobocchiero Guiseppa May 15 1899 8477 Manhattan
Faranda Nicolo May 16 1899 Manhattan 8477


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Again, I never heard these names before. Will try to follow up as per last post I sent before this one. :|
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You wrote about the above Giuseppa in your post about the ship manifest... see below

I have this Manifest for the Bolivia, sailing from Palermo, April 23, 1898, partially shown here:

Name Gender Age Married Ethnicity Place of Residence

0001. La Mantia, Giuseppe
M 31y M Italy Misilmeri

0002. Lo Bocchiaro, Antonina
F 25y M Italy Misilmeri

0003. La Mantia, Angela [Incorrect: this is NOT Angela, but Angelo!]F[/b][/b] He died shortly thereafter in the U.S.

11m S Italy Misilmeri

0004. Guccione, Filippa [A clue? I don't know who this is. They were going to another Guccione in NYC.]M 12y S Italy Misilmeri

0005. Lo Bocchiaro, Guiseppa [a sister of Antonina? Again, I don't know.]
F 19y S Italy Misilmeri
Could be Antonina's sister Giuseppa getting married in NYC the year after they arrived. :-)

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Tessa78 wrote:
1. I couldn't get to this manifest mentioned below via Ancestry or Castle Garden for the older records using "C. Antonio Purrazzo" as you have below. I also tried alternate spellings with no luck. :cry:

Do you know what ship manifest you found this name on?
The manifest for "C. Antonio Purrazzo" for 1883 is on Ancestry.

Arriving NY 3 May 1883 on the SS Archimede.


Here is the link to the Ancestry page (will only work if you have a subscription)
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=Vi ... d=12404319

Here is information from the Ancestry index page...

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
(indexed as PURZZO and written on manifest as PURRAZZO)
Name: C Antonio Purzzo
Arrival Date: 3 May 1883
Birth Year: abt 1850
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Place of Origin: Avellino,Italy
Port of Departure: Messina, Sicily and Palermo, Italy
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Archimede

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AWESOME! Exactly what I was looking for. Many thanks. I see that the spelling most likely was the difficulty. :D
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You are most welcome! :D

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An update on LoBocchiaro and Lamantia:

I ordered 3 microfilms from Family Search for the Lamantia and LoBocchiaro search. I am working on them at a local center.

So far, I have found Giuseppe Lamantia's (my paternal grandfather) civil birth record from Misilmeri, from March (20 possibly, as it looks like "giorno venti", but not sure), 1867. It is quite illegible, having little to do with the old writing style and too much to do with VERY bad penmanship! :cry: I cannot decipher much of the information. It is entirely written in cursive, no typewriter text.

Fortunately, I also found his marriage record, May (26?), 1894, to my grandmother, which revealed more family names, and provided corrections for my records. This record is partially type fonts with filled-in blanks in handwriting.

Giuseppe Lamantia and "Antonina Bocchiaro" aka Anna in the USA, no Lo or La prefix at this point in time, which I have seen alternately over various US-side records, but "LoBocchiaro" shows up after the marriage right on the record at the bottom, with the witnesses...do you know why that would happen? Where the 2 names are entered in the outer column, the Lo was crossed out! Puzzling.

His parents' names: Angelo Lamantia (first child was named after him, but died shortly after arrival in New York City).

His mother (whose last name I never heard before): "Girolama [looks like] "Benetti" or on Giuseppe's birth record it looks more like "Bonetti". Vowels are a little unclear. One of Antonina's and Giuseppe's children, and only daughter, was originally named "Gerolama" with an "e", became known to me as "Mae".

Antonina's mother: (another new name): "Giuseppa Corso", at least I think it's "Corso"! On Antonina's (now Anna Labocchiaro) NYC death certificate it was entered as LaCrisa...totally wrong!! :roll:

I don't see her father's name on certificate.

BUT, I found his name on an Indice Annuale in their marriage year, of Giuseppe "LaMantia" and Antonina "Bocchiaro" in Misilmeri: Her father is Pietro Bocchiaro and her mother definitely, Gerolama Corso.

How can I attach or include tif or jpg images for you to see on this forum?

Do you think you could dig up anything else with this information?

Thanks for all you do and have done for me already,
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How may I show you an image of my great greatgrandfather's death record? Can I attach it or upload it here? I am unable to make out the spelling, etc. of significant names on the second page of his record and I am wondering if you could help me somehow. The names might provide me with his deceased parents' names.

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Hello again, theograd!

You can upload your images using an image-sharing site such as http://postimage.org/

Free - just browse, upload (after choosing family safe) and then copy and paste the "forum thumbnail 1" into the forum here.

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OK. I think I did it, and it looks like I did more than I should have!

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his record is a death record from 1867, Misilmeri, Palermo, Sicily.
If you look for the 13th line on the right hand page, you'll see Francesco Corso's name.
1. I am interested in the names that follow his believing that his parents' names are there. I cannot make the names out, and I have absolutely no knowledge of their names...until now with this record.
2. Also looking for date of death.

FYI: He would be one of my great-great grandfathers from my father's side.
I have been studying 3 microfilms from Utah: this comes from one of them. I may send you more images of other records, if you don't mind.
3. Please let me know if that would be OK.

Thanks, Theograd
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theograd wrote:OK. I think I did it, and it looks like I did more than I should have!

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his record is a death record from 1867, Misilmeri, Palermo, Sicily.
If you look for the 13th line on the right hand page, you'll see Francesco Corso's name.
1. I am interested in the names that follow his believing that his parents' names are there. I cannot make the names out, and I have absolutely no knowledge of their names...until now with this record.
2. Also looking for date of death.

FYI: He would be one of my great-great grandfathers from my father's side.
I have been studying 3 microfilms from Utah: this comes from one of them. I may send you more images of other records, if you don't mind.
3. Please let me know if that would be OK.

Thanks, Theograd
This record is dated 27 July 1867 at 12 NOON
Before the official appeared Antonio Cerutti(?), age 28, a peasant farmer and son of Giambattista; and Vincenzo D'Ai(?), age 27, peasant farmer and son of Rosario...
to declare that on this day "oggi=today", died at the house at quarter S. Francesco, Francesco Corso, age 45, a peasant farmer born and residing in Misilmeri, husband of Costanza Spezio/Spazio (not sure of the spelling of this name - the closest I could find in Sicily is SPEZZIGA/SPEZZIGU); son of deceased Vincenzo and of deceased (can't make this out yet - will keep studying it).

This death would put Francesco's birth at around 1822 - maybe you can locate the birth record.


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Feel free to post the other images.
I would be happy to translate, and others here would be glad to help as well. :-)

BTW - you didn't post more image than you should have. It is always better for us to see more of the record to view the handwriting...

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I am sending 2 images, pages 1 and 2, for Giuseppe Lamantia (my paternal grandfather) for his birth (March 20?,1867) to understand his parents' names better.

On Giuseppe's marriage record to Antonina Bocchiaro, his parents names are shown as Angelo Lamantia and Girolama Bonetti/Benetti? This spelling is unclear. I could not upload marriage index/indice image due to incorrect file format, a tif instead of tiff. (Now I know better!) Same with his marriage record, a pdf...who knew!

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Grazie...seems I am learning some Italian by exposure!
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Hi theograd :-)

I hope more of the volunteers take a look at this record. It is quite difficult to read, and I'm not certain of a few things... (see the ???s)

Here is what I see:

Record #81
Birth Act of Giuseppe Lamantia
dated 20 March 1867 at 11 AM
before the official of the town appeared
Angelo Lamantia, age 46, shoemaker (calzolaio) residing in the town
to present a male child born on the 19th (I think I see "giorno d'ieri" = yesterday) at 8 PM to his wife, Girolama Bonetti the daughter of deceased Giacchino, who was living with him at the house he inhabits (this would be Angelo) in "quartier San Francesco -San Francesco quareter/neighborhood" and to whom was given the name GIUSEPPE.

The rest is about the witnesses (usually not related to the declarant). Then the official reads the act to all the participants and signs.

It is better to save in JPEG :-)

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