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Is there a source for the names of people who left Italy around 1881 ? My great grandfather and his brother left Sant'Elia Fiumerapido in then but I don't know if they intended to land on the West coast of Scotland or if they were bound for New York ?
Garrysdad
List of people leaving Italy circa 1880
Re: List of people leaving Italy circa 1880
I am not aware of such a list, but if you provide us with names and dates of birth maybe we can help in the search.
T.
T.
Re: List of people leaving Italy circa 1880
The names of the 2 brothers were Antonio La Marra and Nicola La Marra. They arrived in Scotland around 1881 initially. Antonio lost his first 2 wives and so made the trip on 3 occasions. Antonio was born in Sant'Elia on 19 February 1855 whilst Nicola was born in Sant'Elia on 28 October 1861.
Garrysdad
Garrysdad
Re: List of people leaving Italy circa 1880
Is this your Antonio?
Birth of son Giuseppe in 1891?
Antonio Lamarra
mentioned in the record of Guiseppe Lamarra
Name Antonio Lamarra
Gender Male
Wife Latizia Vivl... Lamarra
Son Guiseppe Lamarra
Name Guiseppe Lamarra
Gender Male
Birth Date 03 Dec 1891
Birthplace Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
Father's Name Antonio Lamarra
Mother's Name Latizia Vivl... Lamarra
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And birth of a daughter, Angelina, to Nicola in same year?
Nicola Lamarra
mentioned in the record of Angelina Lamarra
Name Nicola Lamarra
Gender Male
Wife Petronilla Spicola Lamarra
Daughter Angelina Lamarra
Name Angelina Lamarra
Gender Female
Birth Date 10 Nov 1891
Birthplace Bothwell, Lanark, Scotland
Father's Name Nicola Lamarra
Mother's Name Petronilla Spicola Lamarra
T.
Birth of son Giuseppe in 1891?
Antonio Lamarra
mentioned in the record of Guiseppe Lamarra
Name Antonio Lamarra
Gender Male
Wife Latizia Vivl... Lamarra
Son Guiseppe Lamarra
Name Guiseppe Lamarra
Gender Male
Birth Date 03 Dec 1891
Birthplace Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
Father's Name Antonio Lamarra
Mother's Name Latizia Vivl... Lamarra
****
And birth of a daughter, Angelina, to Nicola in same year?
Nicola Lamarra
mentioned in the record of Angelina Lamarra
Name Nicola Lamarra
Gender Male
Wife Petronilla Spicola Lamarra
Daughter Angelina Lamarra
Name Angelina Lamarra
Gender Female
Birth Date 10 Nov 1891
Birthplace Bothwell, Lanark, Scotland
Father's Name Nicola Lamarra
Mother's Name Petronilla Spicola Lamarra
T.
Re: List of people leaving Italy circa 1880
Is this the family of your Antonio La Marra in the 1891 Scotland Census?
This would have been some months before the birth of Giuseppe in the record above.
With no image available, it is difficult to determine who "Giuseppe De Stefano" is in the record.
Antonio Lamarra in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: Antonio Lamarra
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Lotegier Lamarra (Letizia?)
Gender: Male
Where born: Italy
Registration Number: 668
Registration district: Linlithgow
Civil Parish: Linlithgow
Town: Linlithgow
County: West Lothian
Address: 148 High St
Occupation: Ice Cream Manufacturer
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 118
LINE: 13
Roll: CSSCT1891_326
Household Members:
Name Age
Antonio Lamarra 36
Lotegier Lamarra 22
Michael Lamarra 4
Anna Lamarra 2
Angelo Lamarra 1
Gesiseppo Destefano 38
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Here is the Probate Index for the above Antonio LaMarra who died in 1913 in Scotland.
Wife is Letizia...
http://interactive.ancestry.com/60558/4 ... PUBJs=true
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Family of Nicola Lamarra in 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Nicolas Lamarra
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Patronalla Lamarrd
Gender: Male
Where born: Italy
Registration Number: 651
Registration district: New Monkland
Civil Parish: New Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 104 Stirling Street
Occupation: Ice Cream Mames Confechone
ED: 15
Household schedule number: 70
LINE: 4
Roll: CSSCT1901_342
Household Members:
Name Age
Nicolas Lamarra 39
Patronalla Lamarrd 38
Carminalla Lamarrd 16
Filomena Lamarrd 15
Joseph Lamarrd 13
Angelina Lamarrd 9
Mary Rosa Lamarrd 4
Francis Lamarrd 1
Joseph Verrechia 35
Emilio Pacione 18
*** REgarding your initial inquiry...
I have searched for ANY ship records for either Antonio or Nicola and have found none.
T.
This would have been some months before the birth of Giuseppe in the record above.
With no image available, it is difficult to determine who "Giuseppe De Stefano" is in the record.
Antonio Lamarra in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: Antonio Lamarra
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Lotegier Lamarra (Letizia?)
Gender: Male
Where born: Italy
Registration Number: 668
Registration district: Linlithgow
Civil Parish: Linlithgow
Town: Linlithgow
County: West Lothian
Address: 148 High St
Occupation: Ice Cream Manufacturer
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 118
LINE: 13
Roll: CSSCT1891_326
Household Members:
Name Age
Antonio Lamarra 36
Lotegier Lamarra 22
Michael Lamarra 4
Anna Lamarra 2
Angelo Lamarra 1
Gesiseppo Destefano 38
***
Here is the Probate Index for the above Antonio LaMarra who died in 1913 in Scotland.
Wife is Letizia...
http://interactive.ancestry.com/60558/4 ... PUBJs=true
***
Family of Nicola Lamarra in 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Nicolas Lamarra
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Patronalla Lamarrd
Gender: Male
Where born: Italy
Registration Number: 651
Registration district: New Monkland
Civil Parish: New Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 104 Stirling Street
Occupation: Ice Cream Mames Confechone
ED: 15
Household schedule number: 70
LINE: 4
Roll: CSSCT1901_342
Household Members:
Name Age
Nicolas Lamarra 39
Patronalla Lamarrd 38
Carminalla Lamarrd 16
Filomena Lamarrd 15
Joseph Lamarrd 13
Angelina Lamarrd 9
Mary Rosa Lamarrd 4
Francis Lamarrd 1
Joseph Verrechia 35
Emilio Pacione 18
*** REgarding your initial inquiry...
I have searched for ANY ship records for either Antonio or Nicola and have found none.
T.
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Re: List of people leaving Italy circa 1880
If you're looking in Scotland, and have a good idea of name, dates and locations, checkout ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk. They have indexed records for both Scottish civil records and the Old Parish Records (OPR) used prior to 1854. (Note: OPR refers to Church of Scotland - the Presbyterian Church.)
Note: It's not a free site. You buy credits, then each search is 1 credit, and most record views are generally 5 credits. (30 credits cost 7GBP.) As an enticement to register, they let you do a surname search on the main page.
I searched Lamarra from 1840-90, and got several hits:
Statutory Register Births 1855 - 1890: 9 matches
Statutory Register Deaths 1855 - 1890: 3 matches
Catholic Parish Records Births & Baptisms 1840 - 1890: 4 matches
Valuation Rolls 1885: 2 matches
As peonygirl said, genealogy searches in Scotland are almost like cheating.
It's tempting....
-Ken
Note: It's not a free site. You buy credits, then each search is 1 credit, and most record views are generally 5 credits. (30 credits cost 7GBP.) As an enticement to register, they let you do a surname search on the main page.
I searched Lamarra from 1840-90, and got several hits:
Statutory Register Births 1855 - 1890: 9 matches
Statutory Register Deaths 1855 - 1890: 3 matches
Catholic Parish Records Births & Baptisms 1840 - 1890: 4 matches
Valuation Rolls 1885: 2 matches
As peonygirl said, genealogy searches in Scotland are almost like cheating.

It's tempting....
-Ken
Researching surnames Pedroncelli and Pilatti in Sondrio; Cantoia in Novara; Penna in Asti.
Re: List of people leaving Italy circa 1880
Thanks to both Tessa78 and to Ken for taking the trouble to reply to my query. I have been very active on Scotlandspeople and with the LDS microfilms and so have discovered your information already. I am still curious about the two young Italians landing on the West Coast of Scotland !
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Re: List of people leaving Italy circa 1880
From birth death and marriage certificates it looks like Petronella and Nicola were my great great great grandparents, it would be interesting to know how your related it your still on here.
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I am a great grandaughter of Angelina Lamarra. She married Donald Munro Bennie. i've always heard of the icecream parlour she ran in Linlithgow
Her son Andrew Lamarra Bennie had two sons, Antonio Lamarra Bennie (1946) and Donald Munro Bennie. They all moved from Scotland to Vancouver, Canada.
Antonio Lamarra Bennie was my father and I am Chelsea Lamarra Bennie, born 1983 in Vancouver, Canada.
I have 3 children one of which is Penny Lamarra Franey now. Wanted to keep the Lamarra alive. If we are related through Angelina or anyone please reach out and message me !
Her son Andrew Lamarra Bennie had two sons, Antonio Lamarra Bennie (1946) and Donald Munro Bennie. They all moved from Scotland to Vancouver, Canada.
Antonio Lamarra Bennie was my father and I am Chelsea Lamarra Bennie, born 1983 in Vancouver, Canada.
I have 3 children one of which is Penny Lamarra Franey now. Wanted to keep the Lamarra alive. If we are related through Angelina or anyone please reach out and message me !
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Re: List of people leaving Italy circa 1880
Hi Nicola Lamarra was my great grans grandfather, her mum was Maria Rosa lamarra daughter of Nicola and petronilla spicola, Nicolas brother was Antonio lamarra, my name is Hayley black from Glasgow but I believe we are related yes, my great gran Dolores lamarra was adopted out in Scotland she was the niece of Antonio and Lotizia (spelling might be wrong)