Translating Birth Certificate

[mmogno]

In Cepagatti, marriage Luigi Antonio Palma (b. Pianella, 21.09.1836; widower of Angela Dea) - Lucia Fantacuzzi (b. Cepagatti, 15.03.1840)

Banns #30
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Marriage #13
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[Jamiepalma2]

Thank you. I found his marriage record to his first marriage and was surprised that he had been married twice.

[Jamiepalma2]

If someone doesn't mind translating these two documents for me I would appreciate it. Also, does anyone know if the death certificates ever say the cause of death?

Luigi Palma death certificate

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Luigi mothers birth certificate (Domenica Giancatarino)

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[Jamiepalma2]

This is Arcangelo Tassone 1811 death record if someone doesn't mind helping me translate it I would greatly appreciate it.

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Death No 73: Arcangelo Tassone
Pianella: 23 September 1811, 3 pm

Before the official appeared Sabatino Giancatarino, 41 yo, and Donato di Luca, 45 yo, both contadini, living in Pianella, in Contrada di Collecchio, and both acquantances of the deceased. They reported that deceased Arcangelo Tassone , born in Caprara, and lived in Pianella in Contrada di Collecchio, the husband of Lucia Mariotti, contadina, living in Pianella, and the son of the deceased Giuseppe Tassone, and Margarita?, has left four children Sabatino, Francesco, Marianna and Camillo, on 22 September 1811.

(Jamie, in the index the spelling of Arcangelo's surname is Tassone, but in the record here each time it is spelt Tascione?)



And the other two records you have posted here. (We always appreciate the link to the image when you can provide it.) :

Notification No 17: Giuseppe Palma and Domenica Giancatarino
Pianella: 27 May, 1830, 3 pm

Prospective Groom: Giuseppe Pianella, 23 yo, Contadino, living Pianella, son of Silvestro Palma, Contadino, living same place, and of Maria Basilisco, living with the husband.

Prospective Bride: Domenica Giancatarino, 20 yo, daughter of deceased Massimo Giancatarino, and Colomba Luciani, living in Pianella.
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Marriage No 17: Giuseppe Palma and Domenica Giancatarino
Pianella: 13 June 1830, 2 pm

Groom: Giuseppe Palma, 24 yo, born Pianella, contadino, living Pianella, son of Silvestro Palma, contadino, living in the town, and of deceased Maria Basilisco

Bride: Domenica Giancatarino, 20 yo, born in Pianella, daughter of deceased Massimo Giancatarino and Colomba Luciani, living in the town.

They were maried in the parish of San Leonardo on 13 June 1830.
Witnesses: Carlo Ferrara and Cristofaro Basile.

Attachments received were:
The birth acts of the bride and groom (mandatory). The death act of the father and paternal grandfather of the bride. The notification.
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Angela

Angela - I was just wondering where I could find the attachments that were received? Im interested in finding the death act of the father and paternal grandfather of the bride to be.

Thanks!

[AngelaGrace56]

Jamie, for this marriage, what you are looking for are the Processetti, sometimes called Allegati. You can read about them here: https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/Italia ... _You_Think

They are basically the "packet of documents required of the bride and groom before a marriage could take place." - (attachments, supplements etc)

1830 Pianella Processetti: http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 830/10716/

The Processetti for this marriage begin here with Giuseppe Palma's Baptism Extract. (Images 129 and 130):
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Image 131 is the Birth Extract of the bride.

Image 132 is the Death Extract of Massimo Giancatarino – It is No 95 and he died in Chieti 14 April 1821. He was 46 yo, born in Pianella, contadino, living in the town of Chieti, the son of deceased Domenico and the deceased Domenica Spacca.
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Image 133 is the Death Extract of Domenico Giancatarino – No 44 and he died Pianella 9 July 1814. He was born in Penne, aged 90, the widower of Domenica Spacca the son of deceased Giuseppe Giancatarino. He was a contadino, living in Pianella. His son Sabatino Giancatarino was one of the witnesses along with Vincenzo Marini.
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Some more names for you and possibly a new town?

Angela

[Jamiepalma2]

Jamie, for this marriage, what you are looking for are the Processetti, sometimes called Allegati. You can read about them here: https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/Italia ... _You_Think

They are basically the "packet of documents required of the bride and groom before a marriage could take place." - (attachments, supplements etc)

1830 Pianella Processetti: http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 830/10716/

The Processetti for this marriage begin here with Giuseppe Palma's Baptism Extract. (Images 129 and 130):
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Image 131 is the Birth Extract of the bride.

Image 132 is the Death Extract of Massimo Giancatarino – It is No 95 and he died in Chieti 14 April 1821. He was 46 yo, born in Pianella, contadino, living in the town of Chieti, the son of deceased Domenico and the deceased Domenica Spacca.
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Image 133 is the Death Extract of Domenico Giancatarino – No 44 and he died Pianella 9 July 1814. He was born in Penne, aged 90, the widower of Domenica Spacca the son of deceased Giuseppe Giancatarino. He was a contadino, living in Pianella. His son Sabatino Giancatarino was one of the witnesses along with Vincenzo Marini.
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Some more names for you and possibly a new town?

Angela

Yes! Thank you! You are the best! Excited to learn more about this new town! By any chance did Guisippes baptism record have a church name or town name?

[AngelaGrace56]

Yes, it does. Sorry, Jamie, for some reason I thought you already had his Birth Record, but given he was baptised in 1806 you probably don't.

Baptised on 9 June 1806 in the church of San Leonardo, Pianella.

It gives the parents names, (Silvestro Palma and Maria Basilisco), which you already know, but not their ages. The info which has been extracted from the Baptism Register is in Latin, so if I've missed anything important I'm sure someone will pick up on it.

Edit to Add:
Here is the bride's original 1809 Birth Record at No 126. Not sure if you have it. Let us know if you need it translated.
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Angela

[Jamiepalma2]

Yes, it does. Sorry, Jamie, for some reason I thought you already had his Birth Record, but given he was baptised in 1806 you probably don't.

Baptised on 9 June 1806 in the church of San Leonardo, Pianella.

It gives the parents names, (Silvestro Palma and Maria Basilisco), which you already know, but not their ages. The info which has been extracted from the Baptism Register is in Latin, so if I've missed anything important I'm sure someone will pick up on it.

Edit to Add:
Here is the bride's original 1809 Birth Record at No 126. Not sure if you have it. Let us know if you need it translated.
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Angela

Thank you for translating that for me. I just looked I have his grandson Guisippe Palmas great grandson's birth information. I keep mixing those two up. It looks like I already have his wife's information. Im so excited about the new information that you provided me with! I need to learn more about the San Leonardo Church in Pianella. It looks like I have several ancestors connected to it. Thanks again!

[AngelaGrace56]

Very happy to help. It's always so cool making new discoveries. Have fun!

Angela

[mmogno]

"Relazione di morte" for Donato di Girolamo. Padova, April 21,1903

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Note (top left):
"Mezzo di trasporto al Cimitero -- Carro notturno"
= Means of transport to the Cemetery -- Night carriage

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[AngelaGrace56]

Good find, mmogno!

Angela