Death record translation help please

[lmarsango]

Hello and thanks in advance. I would love some help with this one just to make sure I'm reading it correctly.

-Lynda

[brogie62]

In Feltre ... death of Maddalena Gobber, aged 55, villager, resident in Arson, born in Canal San Bovo of the late Valentino, villager, domiciled when alive in Canal San Bovo, and the late Maria Maddalena Gobber, villager, domiciled when alive in the same place, wife of Felice Baldissera.

[lmarsango]

Thank you! I believe it's resident in Arson Feltre.

-Lynda

[brogie62]

Yes, it is Arson di Feltre. Arson is a frazione of Feltre.

[AngelaGrace56]

She died 10 January 1892

Re the occupation Villica (female) Villico (male) Villici (plural), I've mostly seen this translated as farmer.

You might be interested in the following about Villici, which Erudita has written:

"The villici were landless, poor peasants, who lived in crude dwellings with their families, outside of the village center, near the fields they tended. Once a year they would present themselves in the village piazza to seek a contract for the next growing season. Sometimes they would be granted the same plot of land to farm; at other times, a different one kilometers away, or even no plot at all. In the absence of supervision, the villici did nothing to improve the land. Their drive for sustenance forced these temporary laborers to exploit the land, sow on nearby plots which had been designated to remain fallow, and to emphasize quantity over quality."
https://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/ ... er#p186970

Angela

[brogie62]

Thanks Angela. I didn’t know that.

[lmarsango]

Thanks for that info Angela!

-Lynda

[AngelaGrace56]

You are very welcome, brogie 62. Good job on the translation - it's great to have some more translators on board, especially now, with more records going on line all the time.

Angela

[lmarsango]

Can I ask where you are seeing the death date as the 10th? The record date is the 11th is it not?

-Lynda

[AngelaGrace56]

Thanks for that info Angela!

-Lynda

You are very welcome, Lynda.

Angela

[AngelaGrace56]

Can I ask where you are seeing the death date as the 10th? The record date is the 11th is it not?

-Lynda

Indeed, the record is dated 11 January (that is the day the death was registered) but in the body of the record it basically says that "they reported that at the hour 1.30 pm yesterday (ieri), died Maddalena Gobber........"

Sometimes you will see the word "oggi" (today), when the deceased passed on the same day.

(Sorry for the lag, I had a phone call.)

Angela

[brogie62]

You are very welcome, brogie 62. Good job on the translation - it's great to have some more translators on board, especially now, with more records going on line all the time.

Angela

I am not any sort of experienced translator. I have taught myself over the last couple of years to glean the key information from the records. Some detail is lost on me but I am still learning.

[lmarsango]

Ok thank you. I'll have to try to remember that. I'm sure I have a few dates wrong. I've barely learned to read the date of the record and the parents names and places of birth. (I can kind of pick out the important things) It's a real challenge, but I'm finding I don't have to look up every single date now.

-Lynda

[AngelaGrace56]

You are very welcome, brogie 62. Good job on the translation - it's great to have some more translators on board, especially now, with more records going on line all the time.

Angela

I am not any sort of experienced translator. I have taught myself over the last couple of years to glean the key information from the records. Some detail is lost on me but I am still learning.

Well that's great, because on this site we are all learning together. It's fantastic because there are always new words popping up in these records that we have to research because we are not sure of their meaning. I'm passionate about languages, and especially dialects of Italia, so I'm always excited to see dialectal words appear in the records.

Angela

[lmarsango]

And I have a quick question if any of you know. ...so Maddalena Gobber was born in a part of Italy that was at the time in Austria and ruled by the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Would her family heritage be Austrian or Italian?

-Lynda