translation? Cipriano birth record
translation? Cipriano birth record
I have attached a file if any one can translate? thank you
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Re: translation? Cipriano birth record
Here the record
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
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Re: translation? Cipriano birth record
Thank you can anyone translate it?
Re: translation? Cipriano birth record
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 3.jpg.html
This is what I can understand from the record. I can't find some of the vocabulary used to describe what the infant was wearing when he was discovered.
Birth of Eugenio Cipriano, son of unknown parents
Dated Sept 19, 1884 in Sant’Elia a Pianisi
Appearing at the town hall was Maria Giovanna Ciricillo, daughter of deceased Donato (Ciricillo), age 45, a midwife who living in, and resident in, this town, on the street known as Vico Inforza, #13. She declared that toward the hour of 2:20 a.m. this morning, she was awoken by a woman who called out to her two or three times telling her to get up because there was a boy behind her door. The midwife immediately went to her door and found an infant boy on the ground wrapped with a tattered cotton diaper, a shirt of ?, a band, and finally with a bonnet. There was nothing with the infant which would aid in identifying its paternity or maternity. After having visited the infant, the town official recognized that he was of male sex, apparently a day old, and gave him the name Eugenio and surname Cipriano. He also assigned him to the wetnurse, Maria Domenica DiCera, daughter of deceased Michele (DiCera) , and wife of Francesco Giangiacomo, (son) of Giuseppe. She was a peasant living in, and resident in, this town of Sant’Elia a Pianisi.
This is what I can understand from the record. I can't find some of the vocabulary used to describe what the infant was wearing when he was discovered.
Birth of Eugenio Cipriano, son of unknown parents
Dated Sept 19, 1884 in Sant’Elia a Pianisi
Appearing at the town hall was Maria Giovanna Ciricillo, daughter of deceased Donato (Ciricillo), age 45, a midwife who living in, and resident in, this town, on the street known as Vico Inforza, #13. She declared that toward the hour of 2:20 a.m. this morning, she was awoken by a woman who called out to her two or three times telling her to get up because there was a boy behind her door. The midwife immediately went to her door and found an infant boy on the ground wrapped with a tattered cotton diaper, a shirt of ?, a band, and finally with a bonnet. There was nothing with the infant which would aid in identifying its paternity or maternity. After having visited the infant, the town official recognized that he was of male sex, apparently a day old, and gave him the name Eugenio and surname Cipriano. He also assigned him to the wetnurse, Maria Domenica DiCera, daughter of deceased Michele (DiCera) , and wife of Francesco Giangiacomo, (son) of Giuseppe. She was a peasant living in, and resident in, this town of Sant’Elia a Pianisi.
Re: translation? Cipriano birth record
thank you thank you so so much, this is much appreciated from all in our family
cathy
cathy
Re: translation? Cipriano birth record
You're very welcome, Cathy.
Erudita
I'm referencing your original post, so another volunteer doesn't think you haven't received a reply.
https://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/language/43660
Erudita
I'm referencing your original post, so another volunteer doesn't think you haven't received a reply.
https://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/language/43660
Re: translation? Cipriano birth record
Erudita,
This is so wonderful that you and all the volunteers help us all to understand. thanks again
cathy
This is so wonderful that you and all the volunteers help us all to understand. thanks again
cathy
Re: translation? Cipriano birth record
Again, you're welcome, Cathy. Since you're new at this, I just want you to know that the town official normally recorded all of the items left with an abandoned infant. The reason for doing this was in case the natural parent(s) ever decided to come back at some point to reclaim the child. This would be the way the town had of determining if the person was, in fact, a biological parent. That person would have to appear before a town notary, along with witnesses to prove his/her identity, and describe everything left with the infant. In most instances though, the natural parent never returned. If one or both of the parents did, then there should be a notation in the margin of the birth record, which there isn't here. There would also be an act of recognition among the records in the year that the recognition took place, but not in Part I of the records for that year.
Also the reason why an abandoned infant was assigned to a wetnurse was because infants were primarily breastfed in those days. Some wetnurses had recently lost children of their own and had a sufficient milk supply to breastfeed another infant. If done in their own homes, they would receive a stipend from the town. This enabled many poor peasant women to supplement the family income by their work. It was, however, a dangerous thing to do, as if the abandoned, infant developed syphyllis, the disease could be passed to their husbands and own children and prove fatal to them. An interesting book on the subject-Amalia's Tale by Prof David I Kertzer.
Erudita
Also the reason why an abandoned infant was assigned to a wetnurse was because infants were primarily breastfed in those days. Some wetnurses had recently lost children of their own and had a sufficient milk supply to breastfeed another infant. If done in their own homes, they would receive a stipend from the town. This enabled many poor peasant women to supplement the family income by their work. It was, however, a dangerous thing to do, as if the abandoned, infant developed syphyllis, the disease could be passed to their husbands and own children and prove fatal to them. An interesting book on the subject-Amalia's Tale by Prof David I Kertzer.
Erudita
Re: translation? Cipriano birth record
Erudita,
that is so interesting and this translation you did for us brought up many of those questions that we have been speculating on. Again, thank you for the background info and will look up the book. Some of the Cipriano family here in Ohio still keep in contact with the Giangiacomo family and this confirmed what we have all been told about Eugenio. I am curious about baptism of the orphaned infants,, would h have been baptized pretty quick? and would there be church records for that? thanks. cathy.
that is so interesting and this translation you did for us brought up many of those questions that we have been speculating on. Again, thank you for the background info and will look up the book. Some of the Cipriano family here in Ohio still keep in contact with the Giangiacomo family and this confirmed what we have all been told about Eugenio. I am curious about baptism of the orphaned infants,, would h have been baptized pretty quick? and would there be church records for that? thanks. cathy.
Re: translation? Cipriano birth record
Cathy,
I posted the following under the duplicate thread you had by mistake, so I'm repeating it here because I'm afraid you might not otherwise see it:
Cathy
The baptism of an infant, even an abandoned one, would normally take place on the day of birth, or within one or two days after. If the newborn was in imminent danger of dying, the midwife herself would perform the baptism rite (she had the permission of the Catholic Church to do so) or, if the baby was healthy, she took it to the church to have it baptized. Even when the parents of a newborn were known, and it had not been abandoned, it was the midwife who normally walked through the town’s streets carrying the baby to the church for its baptism. She would then be accompanied by the infant’s father, other family members, friends, and neighbors. She also often served as the infant's godmother. New mothers normally did not attend the baptism of their infants, as they had to undergo a purification period of some 40 days and thus did not leave their homes during that time period.
I found the following link concerning a parish (parishes) in Sant’ Elia a Pianisi. If you click on the link, you will see other parish names listed under the Parrocchia di S. Elia Profeta, all with the same address. Since you are in contact with relatives in Italy, possibly they can help you track down a baptism record, as those are not online for this town. The telephone number below is for use in Italy.
http://www.parrocchiemap.it/parrocchiem ... %20Pianisi
Parrochia di S Elia Profeta
Largo Chiesa, 17
86048 Sant’Elia a Pianisi (CB)
Italia
Tel 0874/81204
Here’s a link to a form letter in Italian, in case you need it to write and request the record from the parish:
http://geocities.ws/paulanigro/italian- ... tter4.html
If you can get a copy of this book through a library (your public library might be able to get you a copy on loan from a local university library), I would suggest reading it. It's out of print and used copies are extremely expensive now:
Sacrificed for Honor: Italian Infant Abandonment and the Politics of Reproductive Control
by David I. Kertzer (Author)
Erudita
I posted the following under the duplicate thread you had by mistake, so I'm repeating it here because I'm afraid you might not otherwise see it:
Cathy
The baptism of an infant, even an abandoned one, would normally take place on the day of birth, or within one or two days after. If the newborn was in imminent danger of dying, the midwife herself would perform the baptism rite (she had the permission of the Catholic Church to do so) or, if the baby was healthy, she took it to the church to have it baptized. Even when the parents of a newborn were known, and it had not been abandoned, it was the midwife who normally walked through the town’s streets carrying the baby to the church for its baptism. She would then be accompanied by the infant’s father, other family members, friends, and neighbors. She also often served as the infant's godmother. New mothers normally did not attend the baptism of their infants, as they had to undergo a purification period of some 40 days and thus did not leave their homes during that time period.
I found the following link concerning a parish (parishes) in Sant’ Elia a Pianisi. If you click on the link, you will see other parish names listed under the Parrocchia di S. Elia Profeta, all with the same address. Since you are in contact with relatives in Italy, possibly they can help you track down a baptism record, as those are not online for this town. The telephone number below is for use in Italy.
http://www.parrocchiemap.it/parrocchiem ... %20Pianisi
Parrochia di S Elia Profeta
Largo Chiesa, 17
86048 Sant’Elia a Pianisi (CB)
Italia
Tel 0874/81204
Here’s a link to a form letter in Italian, in case you need it to write and request the record from the parish:
http://geocities.ws/paulanigro/italian- ... tter4.html
If you can get a copy of this book through a library (your public library might be able to get you a copy on loan from a local university library), I would suggest reading it. It's out of print and used copies are extremely expensive now:
Sacrificed for Honor: Italian Infant Abandonment and the Politics of Reproductive Control
by David I. Kertzer (Author)
Erudita
Re: translation? Cipriano birth record
Cathy
It looks like the links I posted in the reply above did not copy in their entirety and don't work. I'm trying to find the first link again. Below is a link to the letter in Italian and also a link to some photos of the church I found on another website. Also I found the parish priest's name.
Letter to parish priest
http://geocities.ws/paulanigro/italian- ... tter4.html
Priest:
Padre Eduardo Giglia
http://www.cappuccinifoggia.it/conventi ... -a-pianisi
Hopefully this is the link that should have posted for the church info:
http://www.parrocchiemap.it/parrocchiem ... %20Pianisi
Erudita
It looks like the links I posted in the reply above did not copy in their entirety and don't work. I'm trying to find the first link again. Below is a link to the letter in Italian and also a link to some photos of the church I found on another website. Also I found the parish priest's name.
Letter to parish priest
http://geocities.ws/paulanigro/italian- ... tter4.html
Priest:
Padre Eduardo Giglia
http://www.cappuccinifoggia.it/conventi ... -a-pianisi
Hopefully this is the link that should have posted for the church info:
http://www.parrocchiemap.it/parrocchiem ... %20Pianisi
Erudita
Re: translation? Cipriano birth record
Erudita
Oh thank you so much, it's more than I can ever have discovered myself, appreciate it very much. Cathy
Oh thank you so much, it's more than I can ever have discovered myself, appreciate it very much. Cathy
Re: translation? Cipriano birth record
Happy I could help you. You're very welcome, Cathy.
Erudita
Erudita

