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I actually just found their marriage publications in Genova

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=736332
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correct spelling Guandelina Galliado
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thanks again

just went through all of the atti for office 4 for the year 1904.
nothing.
still looking
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At least you now have the marriage publication document in Genova, and their ages in it. I found indices for the marriage acts and nothing. I even looked in 1905. I have to quit now and start dinner, so that's all I can do for today. If you find anything, post the link. Good luck.
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They had an illegitimate daughter in May of 1905. Their marriage legitimized her-June 20th (year? and place?). Need help deciphering the notation as to the place. I see what looks like u.s. and then there is something else which I don't think is Forli. I'm not sure what it means.
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=736332
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Marriage in Forlì, June 20, 1912
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... =151417137

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0

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u. s. = ultimo scorso
La scrittura 20 giugno u. s. vuol dire il più recente 20 giugno. Poichè il giorno in cui è stata scritta la nota è il 4 luglio 1912, il giugno in questione è quello dell'anno 1912.
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mmogno wrote: 26 Mar 2019, 01:53 Marriage in Forlì, June 20, 1912
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... =151417137

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0

@Erudita
u. s. = ultimo scorso
La scrittura 20 giugno u. s. vuol dire il più recente 20 giugno. Poichè il giorno in cui è stata scritta la nota è il 4 luglio 1912, il giugno in questione è quello dell'anno 1912.
Thanks so much for the help, G. I saw the date that the annotation had been added in the margin, but wasn't sure if the marriage took place in the same year. I had no idea who the u.s. meant. Have never seen that before in an annotation.
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The marriage record in Forli found by mmogno shows that 4 children were legitimized by the marriage. I'll help you with the names and records, as soon as I can.
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Here are the first two children legitimized by the 1912 marriage and their birth records. .

1. Alma di Berletti was born on May 9, 1903 in Santarcangelo. Her birth was declared by 72 year old midwife, Caterina Galliadi. She was born in the house at 11 Via Bellaere to a woman who did not consent to be named. The town official gave this female infant the name Alma and the surname di Berletti. Custody of this infant was given to Lorenzo Bisognani, son of deceased Giuseppe, who was living in this city.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... at=1150457

2. Gemma Molari was born on May 9, 1905, also in Genova and not in Santarcangelo, as the marriage record indicates. Appearing to declare her birth was 26 year old Giovanni Molari, living in Genova. He declared that, in house at #19 via Casaregis, was born a feminine infant from his union with a woman who did not consent to be named. The infant was given the name Gemma Teresa Innocenza (Molari). Notation in the margin: She contracted marriage on 7/19/1924 in Santarcangelo with Jaini Valter.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=736332
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erudita74 wrote: 26 Mar 2019, 04:10 Kevin
The marriage record in Forli found by mmogno shows that 4 children were legitimized by the marriage. I'll help you with the names and records, as soon as I can.
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3) #2045 Renato Molari, Genova (Ufficio 4°), Nov. 7 1907
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=736332

4) Maria, Genova, Nov. 4 1909
?????
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Thanks mmogno. Also please edit first name that I spelled with the letter J to Gaini Valter.
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WOW!!!

Thank you both so very much.
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mmogno wrote: 26 Mar 2019, 11:57
erudita74 wrote: 26 Mar 2019, 04:10 Kevin
The marriage record in Forli found by mmogno shows that 4 children were legitimized by the marriage. I'll help you with the names and records, as soon as I can.
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3) #2045 Renato Molari, Genova (Ufficio 4°), Nov. 7 1907
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=736332

4) Maria, Genova, Nov. 4 1909
?????
mmogno,
are you able to tell if the second name listed after Renato in the birth record is Ugo?
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The second name is Ugo. I was just typing a translation of the record for you but am stuck on the street name which ends in nuovo

Renato Ugo Molari born to Giovanni, age 28, on Nov 7, 1907 from his union with a woman who did not consent to be named. He was legitimized by the marriage of Giovanni and Ida in Forli on June 20, 1912.
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Looking at Alma's birth record, there is something added in the margin with a date of 22 Nov 1963 (maybe 1965) what is this?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... at=1150457
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