One particula great-uncle who's not on the map

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One particula great-uncle who's not on the map

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Hi all,
I haven't posted here in a while, but I've been starting to get into research again. I've been researching a great-uncle, Pietro DiMeco, who has been very hard to find info on. I have found his birth certificate, born in 1902 in Nocciano, Abruzzo. (Attached). At the bottom there is a note about his wife Calandra Carmelo. The only location given is "Roma" for the marriage but at least there's a date and record number. So, what I'm hoping to find is who she is, where and when he died and also the marriage certificate. I've found all of those records for all of his siblings, all 7 because those were all confined to Nocciano. But I don't know how to approach looking for these records because there are so many towns/comunes listed under "Roma" on the Antenati website. As well, the records for "Roma" only go to 1930, at least the ones I looked at. I've also search Ancestry, Family Search and Antenati for both of these names and have come up with nothing. It seems strange. I also know that he didn't emigrate to the United States, and died from being hit by a car while relatively young, according to family lore. Can any of you genealogy masters help me with this? This has been a tough nut to crack.
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While marriages generally took place in the hometown of the bride, it was required that the marriage banns be posted in the hometown of the groom. Look for a Pubblicazione in Nocciano for the marriage, usually within 6 months prior.

As to the records after 1930 - both marriage and death - you can write directly to the comune of Nocciano to request this for Pietro Di Meco. When you make your request (in Italian - helpful links below) you should include YOUR photo ID, and email address for them to reach you. Do not send money unless/until notified.

Address:
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Largo Madonna del Piano, 3
65010 Nocciano (PE)
ITALY

Help with letters:
http://geocities.ws/paulanigro/italian- ... tter3.html
http://geocities.ws/paulanigro/italian- ... talrecords


ALSO - There are 11 listings for the surname CALANDRA in Roma. Perhaps you could write to one or more of these individuals to inquire if they know of Carmela Calandra who married with Pietro Di Meco.
https://www.paginebianche.it/ricerca?qs ... ra&dv=roma

Help with friendly letter of inquiry -
http://geocities.ws/paulanigro/italian- ... #relatives

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Hi Tessa,

Those are some good ideas, I didn't know about how the banns were required to be posted in the hometown of the groom, or that it was 6 months before. Unfortunately the Nocciano records online only go until 1930 at this point. I like the idea of writing to folks with the same last name in the same region, but I was thinking that her name was Calandra Carmelo, so do you think on the document they wrote (last name, first name)? As far as I can tell Carmelo is also a common last name.
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Not sure if this helps but there is nobody with the name Carmela Calandra or anything similar born in Roma proper from 1896-1916. From what I saw Calandra is likely the surname rather than Carmelo, this name wasn't in the indices. Calandra has some variants.
Apricena, Caltanissetta, Grottolella, Mazzarino, Montefredane, Salerno, San Severo, Vasto
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bmparent wrote: 06 Aug 2019, 02:04 Hi Tessa,

Those are some good ideas, I didn't know about how the banns were required to be posted in the hometown of the groom, or that it was 6 months before. Unfortunately the Nocciano records online only go until 1930 at this point. I like the idea of writing to folks with the same last name in the same region, but I was thinking that her name was Calandra Carmelo, so do you think on the document they wrote (last name, first name)? As far as I can tell Carmelo is also a common last name.
Clarification: The banns were usually posted WITHIN the 6 months prior to the marriage. Could have been 3 weeks before or 5 months before.

If you look at the birth act you will see that all of the names are written as last name first, then first (given) name, including the father, mother, and the two witnesses to the recording of the birth, and the child's name in the margin.
I believe that the name of the bride is Carmela Calandra.

If you can get a pubication of banns from the Comune of Nocciano, it should solve this mystery :-)

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Very cool, thanks Tessa!
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