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Lucie81 wrote: 04 Nov 2020, 15:21 Hi,

Please please could someone help translate this birth record, i cant read the handwriting!!I think its my great grandads...but cant be sure. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance.

had to attach a link to it as it wouldn't let me attach document to this message for some reason.
Giuseppe Manzi/mansi

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
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October 26, 1879 at town hall in Ravello appeared Salvatore Mansi, age 24, laborer, domiciled in Ravello, who declared that at 6:30 a.m. on October 22, in the home on Via Tenaglia, from his union with Fermina di Stasio, an unmarried woman, a seamstress domiciled in Ravello, a male child was born who was presented to town officials and to whom was given the name of Giuseppe.

Witnesses were Pantaleone Sammarco, age 50, and Matteo Mansi, age 73, laborer, both residents of Ravello.
On the left side is says that on March 28, 1880 Salvatore Mansi and Fermina di Stasio were married, legitimizing the birth of Giuseppe.

Below that on the left it states that on November 18, 1899, Giuseppe married Maria Francesca Forte.
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Thank you so much😊
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Surname is Manzi, not Mansi.
Side note: On 25 March 1880 Salvatore Manzi, son of deceased Bartolomeo, married Ferminia Di Stasio, and the couple legitimized Giuseppe as their son.
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Thanks for your help.. don’t think it was my great grandfather as he apparently got sent from Italy to Uk when he was only young.. back to the drawing board:)
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i have another one is anyone can translate please..
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... =222041885
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liviomoreno wrote: 09 Nov 2020, 07:40 Surname is Manzi, not Mansi.
Side note: On 25 March 1880 Salvatore Manzi, son of deceased Bartolomeo, married Ferminia Di Stasio, and the couple legitimized Giuseppe as their son.
I agree on March 25. I had a typographical error. To me in the main body of the birth act it seems clear that the name is Fermina, not Ferminia. On the left side it is not quite as clear, but it still seems to me to be Fermina, and not Ferminia.

Are you sure it's Manzi and not Mansi? In the writing the the letter between the n and the i looks the same as the s in sei on the next line, then 5 lines down the s in presente, and 6 lines down the s in maschile. Currently the surname in the town appears as Mansi.

https://www.elenchitelefonici.it/elenco ... /RAVELLO/M

https://www.elenchitelefonici.it/elenco ... /RAVELLO/1
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bbivona wrote: 09 Nov 2020, 13:58
liviomoreno wrote: 09 Nov 2020, 07:40 Surname is Manzi, not Mansi.
Side note: On 25 March 1880 Salvatore Manzi, son of deceased Bartolomeo, married Ferminia Di Stasio, and the couple legitimized Giuseppe as their son.
I agree on March 25. I had a typographical error. To me in the main body of the birth act it seems clear that the name is Fermina, not Ferminia. On the left side it is not quite as clear, but it still seems to me to be Fermina, and not Ferminia.

Are you sure it's Manzi and not Mansi? In the writing the the letter between the n and the i looks the same as the s in sei on the next line, then 5 lines down the s in presente, and 6 lines down the s in maschile. Currently the surname in the town appears as Mansi.

https://www.elenchitelefonici.it/elenco ... /RAVELLO/M

https://www.elenchitelefonici.it/elenco ... /RAVELLO/1
You are correct. Sorry!
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liviomoreno wrote: 09 Nov 2020, 16:24
bbivona wrote: 09 Nov 2020, 13:58
liviomoreno wrote: 09 Nov 2020, 07:40 Surname is Manzi, not Mansi.
Side note: On 25 March 1880 Salvatore Manzi, son of deceased Bartolomeo, married Ferminia Di Stasio, and the couple legitimized Giuseppe as their son.
I agree on March 25. I had a typographical error. To me in the main body of the birth act it seems clear that the name is Fermina, not Ferminia. On the left side it is not quite as clear, but it still seems to me to be Fermina, and not Ferminia.

Are you sure it's Manzi and not Mansi? In the writing the the letter between the n and the i looks the same as the s in sei on the next line, then 5 lines down the s in presente, and 6 lines down the s in maschile. Currently the surname in the town appears as Mansi.

https://www.elenchitelefonici.it/elenco ... /RAVELLO/M

https://www.elenchitelefonici.it/elenco ... /RAVELLO/1
You are correct. Sorry!
No apology needed. The handwriting on this one is irregular in several places and I struggled with it a bit.
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