Colombo/Tinto/DeVito Families-New Rochelle, New York

NYJudi · Post by **NYJudi** » 24 Jul 2006, 19:09

I'm trying to find some info on my grandparents and great grandparents. With all the family gone I don't know where to search for answers and was hoping someone on the board would remember them or give me a clue on how to go about finding info on them. I know that my grandparent were born in Italy and that they lived on 4th street in New Rochelle. There were 12 children in the family. I have no idea where in Italy they were born. I do remember my dad talking about it but back then, I had no interest. I do have my grandparents dealth certificicate and their obituary but they don't tell me much. It does tell me that my great grandmother Carmella (DeVito) Tinto was still alive when my grandmother died in 1942 when I was 2 years old but don't remember her.. She may have lived in New Rochelle but I'm not sure. My great grandfathers name was Michael Tino but don't know when he died.

I have been trying for 2 or 3 years to learn something about them and found out a little...but right now, I'm at a stand still. Any help or ideas that you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Judy

wldspirit · Post by **wldspirit** » 24 Jul 2006, 21:00

Just making sure we don't have a typo here......

the g-grandmother is " Carmella (DeVito) Tinto"

married name is "Tinto"........

and " Michael Tino".....??

wldspirit

NYJudi · Post by **NYJudi** » 25 Jul 2006, 09:45

My grandmothers mother's name was Carmella Tinto. Her maiden name was De Vito. I believe that Carmella had 3 children. My grandmother Angelina, Nicholas, Samuel, and Charles. My grandmother Angelina was born abt February 22, 1888.

My grandfather Domenico/Dominick fathers name was Matteo, his mothers name was Maria D Vaccaro with Vaccaro being her maiden name. My grandfather Domenico was born abt April 26, 1872. My grandfather worked for the City of New Rochelle and they had a big house on 4th Street in New Rochelle. He died January 11, 1950 while my grandmother Angelina died October 2, 1947. I also know that my grandparents are buried in New Rochelle. I have no idea where my great greatparents are buried. My grandparents were born in Italy but can't find a Port of Entry for them anywhere or where they lived in Italy. I know that they lived in New Rochelle for 60 years before their death.

Thanks for any help that anyone could give me. Since I was very when they died, I never got to know my grandparents and want to know about them.

Judy

mfjp · Post by **mfjp** » 25 Jul 2006, 12:08

Hi Judy,

My grandmother Angelina was born abt February 22, 1888.

Something's not right somewhere..

Nicholas below was also born in 1888... so .. maybe his info is incorrect... or Angelina's....

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Record info
about Nicholas Tinto

Name: Nicholas Tinto
City: New Rochelle
County: Westchester
State: New York
Birthplace: New York;United States of America
Birth Date: 04 Jun 1888
Race: Caucasian
Roll: 1753932
DraftBoard: 0

Address is a match.

Nicholas WW1 info

same for Samuel

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Record info
about Samuel Joseph Tinto
Name: Samuel Joseph Tinto
City: New Rochelle
County: Westchester
State: New York
Birthplace: New York;United States of America
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1891
Race: Caucasian
Roll: 1753932

Samuels WW1 info

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Record info
about Charles Tinto
Name: Charles Tinto
City: New Rochelle
County: Westchester
State: New York
Birth Date: 07 Feb 1886
Race: White
Roll: 1753932
DraftBoard: 0

Charles WW1 info

Maria

mfjp · Post by **mfjp** » 25 Jul 2006, 13:08

but just one thing...

Where does Colombo fit in??

Maria

wldspirit · Post by **wldspirit** » 25 Jul 2006, 13:34

Angelina married a Columbo??

wldspirit

wldspirit · Post by **wldspirit** » 25 Jul 2006, 13:47

Something's not right somewhere..

Nicholas below was also born in 1888... so .. maybe his info is incorrect... or Angelina's....

Twins???

wldspirit

Columbo...???
See this image......

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2514/columboff5.jpg

wldspirit · Post by **wldspirit** » 25 Jul 2006, 16:42

Take a look at the following........a possibility, ages match up....

1930 United States Federal Census Record
about Charles Tinto
Name: Charles Tinto
Home in 1930: Newtown, Fairfield, Connecticut
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Birthplace: New York
Relation to head-of-house: Head
Mother's Name: Carmelia
Spouse's Name: Aino
Race: White

Household Members: Name Age
Charles Tinto 44, head
Aino Tinto 48, wife
Mildred Tinto 21, daughter
Charles Tinto 13, son
Aino Tinto 10, daughter
Michael Tinto 6, son
Carmelia Tinto 65, mother
Nicholas Tinto 42, brother
Nicholas Tinto 10, nephew
Joseph Tinto 8, nephew
Michael Tinto 14, nephew
Anthony Tinto 12, nephew

1920 United States Federal Census Record
about Charles Tinto
Name: Charles Tinto
Age: 33 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Home in 1920: New Rochelle Ward 4, Westchester, New York
Home owned: Rent
Sex: Male
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Image: 438

wldspirit

NYJudi · Post by **NYJudi** » 25 Jul 2006, 18:11

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:08 am Post subject: Re: Colombo/Tinto/DeVito Families-New Rochelle, New York

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
but just one thing...

Where does Colombo fit in??

Maria

Thanks all for responding. Colombo was my father's last name. Also my grandfather Domenico and greatgrandfathers Matteo's last name.

My fathers brother's and sisters names are Michael, Martin, Nicholas, John, Louis, Eugene, Nina, Marey and Millie. The family house was on 129 4th Street, New Rochelle, NY.

I'm sure that my grandmother had Samuel and Nicholas both of Yonkers NY in 1942, Charles Tinto of Brookfield, CT in 1942 and a sister, Mrs Nicholas Vaccaro of New Rochelle in 1942 because I do have both my grandparents obituary. The obits list their wedding date as November 4, 1901 in New Rochelle but when I sent away for their wedding certificate, there was no record of it. Obit also list my greatgrandmother Mrs Carmella (De Vito) Tinto as being alive when my grandmother died in 1942.

Such a mystery. My mother always said that the Colombo family were not honest about their ages and I remember my aunts and uncles being very quiet people. My father would have told me if I asked, but back then, I had no interest in knowing my history. Now that they all passed, their is no one to question.

Judy

mfjp · Post by **mfjp** » 25 Jul 2006, 20:10

wldspirit wrote:Take a look at the following........a possibility, ages match up....

1920 United States Federal Census Record
about Charles Tinto
Name: Charles Tinto
Age: 33 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Home in 1920: New Rochelle Ward 4, Westchester, New York
Home owned: Rent
Sex: Male
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Image: 438

wldspirit

Charles 1920 Census Image

Hi wldspirit and Judy...

Thanks for posting the census info...

Re the 1920 census... take a look at the parents names??

Am I reading "Tinchiletta, Michele"?? Opinions needed...

Maria

jcsm400 · Post by **jcsm400** » 25 Jul 2006, 23:25

My opinion.......worth abt. 2 cents!

Tinchelteta, but found this........

Possible manifest from Castle Garden site:

Matteo Tinchitella Occupation Laborer
Age 30
Sex M
Literacy U
Arrived 23 Dec 1889
Origin Italy
Port Marseilles & Naples
Last Residence Sala-consilina
Destination New York
Plan Unknown
Ship Britannia
Passage Unknown

jcsm

wldspirit · Post by **wldspirit** » 25 Jul 2006, 23:48

Am I reading "Tinchiletta, Michele"?? Opinions needed...

I agree......name changed to Tinto??

found this for Westchester.........

TINCHETTELLA MICHELE Petition ca. 1900-1901 A-0036(5)
TINCHETTELLA MICHELE Petition 1901 A-0140(38)L[F2]

wldspirit

mfjp · Post by **mfjp** » 26 Jul 2006, 00:23

Not sure about the manifest...of 1889 Matteo Tinchitella (though interesting..)

His eldest son appears to be US born... 1886.. unless he went back to Italy for whatever reason...

??? I don't know... could be wrong...

Maria

wldspirit · Post by **wldspirit** » 26 Jul 2006, 00:27

Census list immigration of 1885, naturalization of 1895........
but I think we can at least be sure of the name change.......
wldspirit

Hey...I just noticed the smiley in my post above.....I didn't do that!!! 8O

NYJudi · Post by **NYJudi** » 26 Jul 2006, 09:58

Very, very interesting. I'm getting confused with the name change. The name change came on the Tinto side of the family correct? According to all my records my grandmothers father's name was Michael Tinto and not Matteo and yet you found a Matteo Tinchitella? I take it that Matteo means Martin in English since I had an Uncle Martin? Where does the Matteo Tinchitella come in. I'm assuming that this my gramdmothers father? How sure are you of the name change? It wouldn't surprise me. I remember my mother saying something about the Colombo's changing their last name. She might have meant the Tinto's on grandmothers side.

The census of the family at 129th 4th Street is right on the money. My dad was Dominick. The family house on 4th Street was sold when Antonette and John died about 5-6 years ago. Many of the brothers and sisters never married and the house was kept and all lived in it until their deaths. I spent many Sundays in the house as a child.

I also take it that if the manifest from Castle Garden is my ancestors that they came from Sala-Consilina. I never heard that mentioned but remember Naples being mentioned but can't remember if my dad said that is where the family came from.

Judy