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Private Family Trees

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Is there a way to view private family trees in Ancestry.com. perhaps with a paid subscription?
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darkerhorse wrote: 21 Sep 2021, 21:45 Is there a way to view private family trees in Ancestry.com. perhaps with a paid subscription?
No, paid subscriptions give no private tree access. If by doing a search you've found someone on a private tree, your only recourse is to contact that tree owner for permission -- usually that comes in the form of an invitation link that will give you access to the tree as a guest.

Good luck with your discoveries..!
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Asking permission to root around in a stranger's private tree is a fool's errand.

As a 20+ year paid member of ancestry with a private tree, I would suggest a slightly different approach. Your chances of getting an invitation to access a private tree is very slim; even getting a response from the tree owner is minimal.

I would suggest you contact the tree owner to first ascertain if the person in the tree is actually the person of interest to you. Since the tree owner has a private, but searchable tree (I assume that is how you found a target name to pursue), there is some likelihood that he/she is interested in sharing information. In your communication, give specific details about the target so that the tree owner can make an informed decision that you are discussing the same person. If that is established, let the tree owner know what information you are seeking regarding the subject and, just as important, what additional areas of information you might offer to fulfill his/her needs.

Keep in mind that it is estimated that over 90% of information in online trees is stronzata. Look for verifiable sources for the material and, if none, search for your own. Good luck.
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Thanks for your reply. Good suggestions.

Unfortunately, I use public access to Ancestry and I can't contact any family tree owners.
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BobNY wrote: 25 Sep 2021, 19:32 Asking permission to root around in a stranger's private tree is a fool's errand.

As a 20+ year paid member of ancestry with a private tree, I would suggest a slightly different approach. Your chances of getting an invitation to access a private tree is very slim; even getting a response from the tree owner is minimal.

I would suggest you contact the tree owner to first ascertain if the person in the tree is actually the person of interest to you. Since the tree owner has a private, but searchable tree (I assume that is how you found a target name to pursue), there is some likelihood that he/she is interested in sharing information. In your communication, give specific details about the target so that the tree owner can make an informed decision that you are discussing the same person. If that is established, let the tree owner know what information you are seeking regarding the subject and, just as important, what additional areas of information you might offer to fulfill his/her needs.

Keep in mind that it is estimated that over 90% of information in online trees is stronzata. Look for verifiable sources for the material and, if none, search for your own. Good luck.
I am wondering why people are so unhelpful on Ancestry? What is the point of even being on there if you refuse to reply, let alone provide any helpful information, even to a close genetic relative/DNA match? It is VERY frustrating.
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greglam wrote: 27 Sep 2021, 13:53
I am wondering why people are so unhelpful on Ancestry? What is the point of even being on there if you refuse to reply, let alone provide any helpful information, even to a close genetic relative/DNA match? It is VERY frustrating.
Fear, for the most part. Too many people are afraid someone is going to "do" something with their information. Yes, it's true, hackers are out there, but a little common sense goes a long way.

Never give info like a mother's maiden name or a correct birthplace as a password reset hint. Make something up or use a program like Bitwarden.

I've read blog posts now lately about Ancestry's privacy terms changes (allowing them permanent access and use of your photos, etc) that have everyone's undies in a bunch. I'm not concerned about it. I've posted them because I WANT them to be seen and/or found.

My tree is public so I CAN make connections. And I've succeeded a couple of times, although I wish it could be more. I have potential relatives with private trees which is aggravating for me, too. Having to go through all the steps indicated by BobNY (no offense to him personally) just takes all the fun of discovery out of it and makes it a chore. It's just not worth the aggravation, especially if it turns out to be a dead end or red herring.

My tree will remain public. I have no control over the general public, nor would I want any. Quel che sarà sarà -- Whatever will be, will be.
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MarcuccioV wrote: 27 Sep 2021, 15:22
greglam wrote: 27 Sep 2021, 13:53
My tree is public so I CAN make connections. And I've succeeded a couple of times, although I wish it could be more. I have potential relatives with private trees which is aggravating for me, too. Having to go through all the steps indicated by BobNY (no offense to him personally) just takes all the fun of discovery out of it and makes it a chore. It's just not worth the aggravation, especially if it turns out to be a dead end or red herring.

My tree will remain public. I have no control over the general public, nor would I want any. Quel che sarà sarà -- Whatever will be, will be.
Well said, Mark, and I'm with you.

-Greg
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