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In rural Sicily in the 1800s would the occupation of "pastore" always refer to shepherd or could it be a herder of other animals, such as goats or cows, or have some other meaning (other than pastor in the sense of clergy)?
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darkerhorse wrote: 12 Sep 2022, 20:34 In rural Sicily in the 1800s would the occupation of "pastore" always refer to shepherd or could it be a herder of other animals, such as goats or cows, or have some other meaning (other than pastor in the sense of clergy)?
I've seen it only as 'shepherd', but not necessarily distinguished by animal...

I've never seen "pastore" in reference to clergy -- only "sacerdote"...
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I know it can reference clergy, but I've never seen an official document using it in that context...
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MarcuccioV wrote: 13 Sep 2022, 02:20
darkerhorse wrote: 12 Sep 2022, 20:34 In rural Sicily in the 1800s would the occupation of "pastore" always refer to shepherd or could it be a herder of other animals, such as goats or cows, or have some other meaning (other than pastor in the sense of clergy)?
I've seen it only as 'shepherd', but not necessarily distinguished by animal...


This record here (No 52 left side) states the profession of the father to be “pastore di Bovi” (oxen carer/literally shepherd of oxen). The record is from Reggio Calabria Province. https://www.antenati.san.beniculturali. ... 50/LpY9lNr

I haven't seen this very often though.

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AngelaGrace56 wrote: 16 Sep 2022, 07:54

This record here (No 52 left side) states the profession of the father to be “pastore di Bovi” (oxen carer/literally shepherd of oxen). The record is from Reggio Calabria Province. https://www.antenati.san.beniculturali. ... 50/LpY9lNr

I haven't seen this very often though.

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In my own research, I once found a record for a spouse that was a keeper of goats, but I don't recall the exact word, but it contained "capra" in some form. The term "pastore" was not included...
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MarcuccioV wrote: 16 Sep 2022, 13:48
AngelaGrace56 wrote: 16 Sep 2022, 07:54

This record here (No 52 left side) states the profession of the father to be “pastore di Bovi” (oxen carer/literally shepherd of oxen). The record is from Reggio Calabria Province. https://www.antenati.san.beniculturali. ... 50/LpY9lNr

I haven't seen this very often though.

Angela
In my own research, I once found a record for a spouse that was a keeper of goats, but I don't recall the exact word, but it contained "capra" in some form. The term "pastore" was not included...


Perhaps it was "custode di capre"?

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There is an interesting discussion here, which Erudita has written, about the “annual transumanza” which shepherds were involved in:

*shepherds were responsible for the migration of huge numbers of livestock, primarily sheep, but also goats and cattle, from the high ground in the hills, which was the spring pasture, to the winter pastures which were nearer to the coast and vice versa. The sheep were driven up the hills from March until the end of June and then down the mountains from January until September. This was a practice that had originated as soon as men began domesticating animals in Italy, and it probably pre-dates the Roman era there. In many instances, the travels lasted up to two weeks.
https://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/ ... ts#p238725

It gives a little bit more insight into the role of a shepherd and who they catered for.

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AngelaGrace56 wrote: 16 Sep 2022, 22:42
Perhaps it was "custode di capre"?

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No, Angela, it was a single word, something like Caprierere or similar. I'd have to research it again. She was the wife of a bovaro. These were cousins of some extent on my grandfather's side, same surname but no dotted lines in the commune during the years of the civil records. Probably branched off prior to that time...
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