I am seeking help confirming the information I found in this record. It is the 11 April 1889 marriage in Versailles, France, between Joseph Russo (born in Tramutola) and Rosa Vita (born in Marsicovetere). I found it on Ancestry in the collection Yvelines, France, Births, Marriages, and Deaths 1734 - 1996. Entry 100. Images 57 - 61. Image 56 contains part of the supplemental typewritten record from 1908. Image 57 is the handwritten marriage record in the registry from 1889, which seems to legitimize their two children, whose names at birth appear to be Louis Vita and Nicola Marie Santavenere). Images 58 - 61 contains more of the typed record from 1908. Based on my attempts at translating using online programs, it's my understanding that the 1908 document is related to the legitimization of one of their children (Nicola Marie Russo born Nicola Marie Santavanere) born prior to marriage, and correcting the recorded gender of the child. Can someone please help me with translating the record and supplemental document enough to learn any more important information that might be included (as well as what the handwriting in the margin says), and let me know if what I deduced about the record is correct or if I've gotten it mixed up? Thank you so much. Here is the first page of the record on Ancestry for anyone who has a subscription.
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-co ... 8946:62009
It seems I am only able to add three attachment images in this post so I will try to add the additional images in the comments if possible. Also it appears on my post preview that my attachments may be out of order but I do have them numbered with the record's image number so hopefully that is not too confusing. Again, thank you!
Joseph Russo of Tramutola and Rosa Vita of Marsicovetere - marriage record in Versailles legitimizing their children
Joseph Russo of Tramutola and Rosa Vita of Marsicovetere - marriage record in Versailles legitimizing their children
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Also from the marriage record it looks like I was mistaken about Louis Vita's birthplace, it says Bordeaux and not Marsicovetere. I wrongly thought both children were born in the same place.
Re: Joseph Russo of Tramutola and Rosa Vita of Marsicovetere - marriage record in Versailles legitimizing their children
Here is the birth record in Marsicovetere of Nicola Maria Santavenere. #10, parte 2
Dated 3 June 1882
It indicates that the child was presented by Rosa Campiglia, age 28, wife of Nicola Vita, and daughter of deceased Lorenzo. She stated that she found the child at her door and it appeared to be about a day old. It lists what items were found with the child.
The official gave the child the name Nicola Maria and the surname Santavenere. Yes, the child was registered as male.
The child was consigned to the declarant for care and upbringing.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043547
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Dated 3 June 1882
It indicates that the child was presented by Rosa Campiglia, age 28, wife of Nicola Vita, and daughter of deceased Lorenzo. She stated that she found the child at her door and it appeared to be about a day old. It lists what items were found with the child.
The official gave the child the name Nicola Maria and the surname Santavenere. Yes, the child was registered as male.
The child was consigned to the declarant for care and upbringing.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043547
T.
Re: Joseph Russo of Tramutola and Rosa Vita of Marsicovetere - marriage record in Versailles legitimizing their children
Oh wow, how sad! Thank you so much for your help.
Re: Joseph Russo of Tramutola and Rosa Vita of Marsicovetere - marriage record in Versailles legitimizing their children
There is a good possibility that Rosa Campiglia's husband, Nicola Vita, was related to the child's mother, and they took the child to raise. This would assure that the child was not placed in an orphanage or placed with someone else.
I tried to find a marriage of Rosa Campiglia and Nicola Vita to discover the name of NIcola's parents. In your marriage of Joseph (Giuseppe) Russo and Rosa Vita, her father is identified as Berardino Vita and her mother as Anna Massica. If Nicola's parents were the same, then he and his wife took in his sister's child.
Just my thoughts.
T.
I tried to find a marriage of Rosa Campiglia and Nicola Vita to discover the name of NIcola's parents. In your marriage of Joseph (Giuseppe) Russo and Rosa Vita, her father is identified as Berardino Vita and her mother as Anna Massica. If Nicola's parents were the same, then he and his wife took in his sister's child.
Just my thoughts.
T.
Re: Joseph Russo of Tramutola and Rosa Vita of Marsicovetere - marriage record in Versailles legitimizing their children
Thank you for sharing your ideas. I found the marriage record for Nicola Vita and Rosa Campiglia (1879 in Marsicovetere, record # 29). Nicola's parents are Antonia Vita and Anna Masico(?) if I'm reading it right. So Rosa and Nicola Vita don't have the same father, but their mothers may share the same name or they may have the same mother (if had two marriages to men with surname Vita). In 1900 Nicola Vita and wife Rosa are in the US living in Providence, Rhode Island with their children. Nicola Marie Santavenere is not in their household but I did find him on a passenger list arriving in the US on 20 Nov 1893 at age 11, on ship Kaiser Wilhelm III sailing from Genoa. He appears to be traveling with Anna Masino, age 63, and Teresa Viggiano, age 22. All three of them are listed as being from Marsicovetere, with their final destination listed as Providence. Could Anna Masino from the passenger list be the same person listed as Anna Masicca, the mother of Rosa Vita on the Versailles marriage record? Or the Anna Masica that is Nicola Vita's mother? I thought maybe one of the names Masica/Masico/Masina could be misspelled.
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Re: Joseph Russo of Tramutola and Rosa Vita of Marsicovetere - marriage record in Versailles legitimizing their children
It is possible, though requires more searching to verify.
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Re: Joseph Russo of Tramutola and Rosa Vita of Marsicovetere - marriage record in Versailles legitimizing their children
In France, when parents of an illegitimate child marry, the marriage can legitimize the child, granting them the same rights as those born within wedlock. This practice is often noted in civil records, alerting researchers to look for documents such as acknowledgment of paternity or subsequent marriage of the parents. Ragdoll Hit