Citizenship questions - Jure Sanguinis Help

[Helloitaly86]

Hi all, I was wondering if anyone could help with my scenario. Im wanting to see if i can be recognised as an Italian citizen.

My grandma born in Italy in 1925 (who passed away in 2000) arrived in Australia with my dad in June of 1955. he was born in oct of 1948 (born out of wedlock). I have my dad’s original birth certificate which does not state who his father was, only that it was an “Italian man”.

When she arrived in Australia she got married to an Italian man named Oreste (born 1907) in July of 1955. At this time she and my dad took his last name.

In Jan of 1964 she then naturalised as an Australian citizen on the back of this certificate my dad is listed as a ‘child included in certificate’ as he was a minor at time. She remained married to Oreste until his death in the 1970s.

I’ve done some searching and am unable to find any record of Oreste naturalising as an Australian citizen its to my understanding throughout their entire marriage he never gave up his Italian citizenship.

Would i met the requirements for ‘Jure Sanguinis’ either through Oreste or my dad’s unnamed father considering all the above? I understand I’d need to obtain birth certificates or baptism papers for Oreste but before I go through all that i wanted to see if its possible. thanks in advance everyone!

[Barga1948]

So long you can have the Government of Australia issue you a certificate of NO naturalization and that an apostille can be attached to it, you should be good to go.

[mler]

You can easily go though your grandmother since your father was not born BEFORE 1948.

[Helloitaly86]

You can easily go though your grandmother since your father was not born BEFORE 1948.

Is that possible even though my dad was naturalized as a minor on my nonnas certificate?

[mler]

I’m sorry. I was incorrect. I didn’t notice that your dad was not born in Australia.

Was your father officially adopted by Oreste?

[Helloitaly86]

No not that I’m aware of. I asked dad and i remember him saying he doesn’t remember going through any of that

[mler]

This would be a very difficult case for several reasons.

Technically, your dad naturalized with his mother in 1964 and would have lost citizenship at that time. The only thing that would have possibly preserved that citizenship would be the citizenship of his father. But the way it stands, Oreste was not legally his father, and because so many years have passed, it may be difficult to prove paternity of his biological father.