Hello,
I am looking for Cesare Buzzetta. I have a few different birth years for him. One is 1822. I know his wife's name is Francesca Mannino and that they had a daughter in 1845. However, I am unable to find that record either. They both lived in Carini, Palermo. Any help would be great.
Thank you
Buzzetta
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AngelaGrace56
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Re: Buzzetta
Hi Kristin
Here is daughter Antonia's 1850 birth record to start you off.
Birth No 89: Antonia Buzzetta, daughter of Cesare Buzzetta, a contadino, 33 yo (born c.1817) and of Francesca Maria Marrino 36 (born c.1814). Antonia Buzzetta was born on 10 March 1850 in Carini and was baptized on 11 March 1850.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 84/LDlapdO (Page 86 of 288)
According to Antonia's birth record Cesare was born circa 1817, so if that is correct, his actual birth record probably won't be on line. However, an extract of his birth record should be amongst the marriage documents (processetti). Finding Cesare and Francesca's marriage record would be the next step to finding more about your Cesare. (Do you know what year he died?)
Angela
Here is daughter Antonia's 1850 birth record to start you off.
Birth No 89: Antonia Buzzetta, daughter of Cesare Buzzetta, a contadino, 33 yo (born c.1817) and of Francesca Maria Marrino 36 (born c.1814). Antonia Buzzetta was born on 10 March 1850 in Carini and was baptized on 11 March 1850.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 84/LDlapdO (Page 86 of 288)
According to Antonia's birth record Cesare was born circa 1817, so if that is correct, his actual birth record probably won't be on line. However, an extract of his birth record should be amongst the marriage documents (processetti). Finding Cesare and Francesca's marriage record would be the next step to finding more about your Cesare. (Do you know what year he died?)
Angela
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Re: Buzzetta
Here's the marriage record which includes the names of Cesare's parents etc:
1844 Marriage No 73 of Cesare Buzzetta and Francesca Maria Mannino (a widow)
Promise declared in Carini on 19 December 1844
Celebration of marriage was on 23 December 1844 in the Mother Church of Carini
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 09/wW2ZZ2P (page 148 of 156)
Cesare Buzzetta, was unmarried, and 22 years old (born c. 1822), had reached the age of maturity, born in Carini, a contadino, living in Carini, the son of Vincenzo (Buzzetta), a 52 yo contadino, living in Carini and of the deceased Francesca Ruggeri.
Francesca Maria Mannino, was a widow, born and living in Carini, 29 yo, had reached the age of maturity, the daughter of the deceased Tommaso (Mannino), and of Maria Pecoraro, 60 yo.
Angela
1844 Marriage No 73 of Cesare Buzzetta and Francesca Maria Mannino (a widow)
Promise declared in Carini on 19 December 1844
Celebration of marriage was on 23 December 1844 in the Mother Church of Carini
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 09/wW2ZZ2P (page 148 of 156)
Cesare Buzzetta, was unmarried, and 22 years old (born c. 1822), had reached the age of maturity, born in Carini, a contadino, living in Carini, the son of Vincenzo (Buzzetta), a 52 yo contadino, living in Carini and of the deceased Francesca Ruggeri.
Francesca Maria Mannino, was a widow, born and living in Carini, 29 yo, had reached the age of maturity, the daughter of the deceased Tommaso (Mannino), and of Maria Pecoraro, 60 yo.
Angela
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Re: Buzzetta
I've located the marriage attachments (allegati/also called processetti) which will take you back further:
Relevant Marriage Allegati begins here at page 361 of 588: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 21/LPYNlyW
Cesare’s 1822 birth record is page 364
Francesca’s 1815 Baptism Record is page 365
Then there should be on following pages the death records of both the mother of the groom and also the paternal grandfather of the groom.
There is also the death record of the father of the bride. (There should’ve also been a death record for the bride’s paternal grandfather but it seems that Francesca did not know where he had died.
Angela
Relevant Marriage Allegati begins here at page 361 of 588: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 21/LPYNlyW
Cesare’s 1822 birth record is page 364
Francesca’s 1815 Baptism Record is page 365
Then there should be on following pages the death records of both the mother of the groom and also the paternal grandfather of the groom.
There is also the death record of the father of the bride. (There should’ve also been a death record for the bride’s paternal grandfather but it seems that Francesca did not know where he had died.
Angela
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AngelaGrace56
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Re: Buzzetta
Two more children born to Cesare and Francesca:
1847 Birth No 60 of Vincenzo Buzcetta son of Cesare and of Francesca Mannino
Registered in Cirini 23 February 1847
Vincenzo Buzcetta was born on 23 February 1847 at 7 am and baptized the same day in the Mother Church of Cirini. His parents were Cesare Buzcetta, 23 yo, a Bracciale (day labourer) and Francesca Mannino, 31 yo.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 80/LN8ryDK Page 61 of 257.
1848 Birth No 200 Maria Buscetta, daughter of Cesare and of Francesca Mannino
Registered Cirini on 26 September 1848
Born on 25 September 1848 and baptised on 26 September 1848 in the Mother Church of Cirini.
Parents were Cesare Buzcetta, 30 (obviously an error) a contadino living Cirini and Francesca Maria Mannino, 36 yo, living Carini, via S. Lorenzo.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/1265
It seems like the surname is might actually be Buzcetta. It is clearer in this last record. It seems like both spellings exist though in the town. I'll go back and review the other records.
Angela
1847 Birth No 60 of Vincenzo Buzcetta son of Cesare and of Francesca Mannino
Registered in Cirini 23 February 1847
Vincenzo Buzcetta was born on 23 February 1847 at 7 am and baptized the same day in the Mother Church of Cirini. His parents were Cesare Buzcetta, 23 yo, a Bracciale (day labourer) and Francesca Mannino, 31 yo.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 80/LN8ryDK Page 61 of 257.
1848 Birth No 200 Maria Buscetta, daughter of Cesare and of Francesca Mannino
Registered Cirini on 26 September 1848
Born on 25 September 1848 and baptised on 26 September 1848 in the Mother Church of Cirini.
Parents were Cesare Buzcetta, 30 (obviously an error) a contadino living Cirini and Francesca Maria Mannino, 36 yo, living Carini, via S. Lorenzo.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/1265
It seems like the surname is might actually be Buzcetta. It is clearer in this last record. It seems like both spellings exist though in the town. I'll go back and review the other records.
Angela
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Re: Buzzetta
Following on from my previous post:
In Antonia’s birth record it is clearly spelt Buzzetta.
In Cesare and Francesca’s marriage record/s I’m reading Buscetta.
Cesare’s Birth Extract it reads Buscetta
And here is one more child, with the spelling of Buzzetta:
1853 Birth No 237 Tommaso Buzzetta
Registered on 3 September 1853 in Carini and baptised the same day, Mother Church of Cirini - but born on 2 September 1853. Parents: Cesare Buzzetta, 30 yo, contadino (peasant/farmer) and Francesca Mannino, 40 yo, living in Cirini, S. Lorenzo.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 88/57KWMGz Page 234 of 373
And another:
1855 Birth No 319: Salvadore Buzzetta
Born in Carini on 23 November 1855 and baptised the same day. Same parents
(Just beware that when they filmed this record they missed the second page of the record.)
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 90/wjdk33K
Angela
In Antonia’s birth record it is clearly spelt Buzzetta.
In Cesare and Francesca’s marriage record/s I’m reading Buscetta.
Cesare’s Birth Extract it reads Buscetta
And here is one more child, with the spelling of Buzzetta:
1853 Birth No 237 Tommaso Buzzetta
Registered on 3 September 1853 in Carini and baptised the same day, Mother Church of Cirini - but born on 2 September 1853. Parents: Cesare Buzzetta, 30 yo, contadino (peasant/farmer) and Francesca Mannino, 40 yo, living in Cirini, S. Lorenzo.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 88/57KWMGz Page 234 of 373
And another:
1855 Birth No 319: Salvadore Buzzetta
Born in Carini on 23 November 1855 and baptised the same day. Same parents
(Just beware that when they filmed this record they missed the second page of the record.)
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 90/wjdk33K
Angela
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Kristin676
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Re: Buzzetta
Thank so much for all your help. I am doing research for a relative and I have been having trouble finding any of this. I don’t know how I missed the marriage record in 1844. Thanks agin, you are amazing. My relative is going to love to find out about his family.
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AngelaGrace56
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Kristin676 wrote: 08 Apr 2025, 18:31 Thank so much for all your help. I am doing research for a relative and I have been having trouble finding any of this. I don’t know how I missed the marriage record in 1844. Thanks again, you are amazing. My relative is going to love to find out about his family.
Fantastic!!! You are so welcome. I’m glad I had some free time yesterday to search.
You possibly missed the marriage record because, in this case, the index wasn’t in alphabetical order. Instead it was numerical by marriage record number. It was noted on the last page of the index, and the names were somewhat faint to read.
FYI Francesca’s first husband was Antonino Buffa. He died on 21 June 1939 and was only 25.
Death Extract is here: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 21/wRbZoGp
Page 366 of 588
If you need any of the documents amongst the marriage attachments translated, just post them on the translations forum. The grandparents death records will take you back further.
Angela
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Re: Buzzetta
Again Thank you. I have been trying to find anything I can for my relative. He is extremely excited to see what I have found so far. I have been looking for his other side in Candida, Avellino, but I am not have much luck there either. The records are all scattered and you don't know if the dates are right or not.
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AngelaGrace56
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Re: Buzzetta
Those records look pretty good to me. However, it is possibile that you are looking at the Ten Year Indices:
e.g. https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 85/04NbJN9
I have a phonecall coming through in five minutes which I need to answer. If you give me a couple of names, dates, parents names etc, I can take a look for you later, or you might like to find the names yourself and then locate the relevant year with the records.
Angela
e.g. https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 85/04NbJN9
I have a phonecall coming through in five minutes which I need to answer. If you give me a couple of names, dates, parents names etc, I can take a look for you later, or you might like to find the names yourself and then locate the relevant year with the records.
Angela
