Question about new rules re: jure sanguinis

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Question about new rules re: jure sanguinis

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Disappointed in the new ruling re: jure sanguinis citizenship; appears to be misguided - coming at a strange time when Italy is experiencing a serious negative birthrate.

My questions:

1) I achieved jure sanguinis citizenship 14 years ago (via my grandfather) and at the same time my daughter applied and also achieved citizenship. I recently renewed my passport and have voted (from the US) in Italian elections. My daughter has not yet renewed her passport. Will she be still be able to renew her passport?

2) My daughter recently decided to apply for her small children; we had begun that process. What does this ruling mean for her children? Since I am the grandfather of my daughter's (small, minor) children, would they qualify? Or, even though the new ruling says the application requires nothing further back than "grandfather" (I am their grandfather) does the new default go all the way back to my grandfather (which would be their great-grandfather), thus disqualifying them? Last, If my grandchildren still qualify, what new (if any) requirements would be required of them (again, they ares still small children)?

3) Do these changes mean that my jure sangunis citizenship is in danger?

Wishing well to all who have begun this process and hope for the new rules to be reversed. We are proud of our Italian heritage and want to make it official.
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If you and your daughter achieved your citizenship, you won't be deprived of it. It is what in Italy is called a "diritto acquisito".
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Thanks Pippo. My other question was about my grandchildren. Does this mean that they will not be able to apply? Again, I got in because of my grandfather (my daughter's great-grandfather), so even though we are officially 'in", my grandchildren are forbidden, correct?
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In my opinion, they are not, as they are minor children of an Italian citizen.
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It’s heartbreaking to see these changes, especially for families like yours that have already gone through so much to honor their heritage. From how the rules are written now, yes, it seems that if the citizenship line stops at great-grandparent and your daughter didn't claim before her children were born, your grandchildren could be ineligible. It feels so counterintuitive given Italy’s demographic situation. Hoping the government reconsiders this—it affects so many proud Italian families.
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