D'Angelo from Cesacastina.

[Biff83]

Cesacastina is a frazione of Crognaleto. That helps explain the place of birth discrepancy.

http://www.abruzzo2000.com/genealogy/ar ... azioni.htm

[vj]

Lot's of people here to help - it's nice when it all starts
to come together!

One question you had:
I thought he was born in March, and the
birthplace doesn't match, but I'll ask my mom
about his birthday.
At the time Carmine registered he didn't read/write
in English. The card is faded where it says May it could
be March. Carmine couldn't have proof read the
information that was written down for him.
(note on his signature line that he 'made his mark')
Hope that helps a bit.
Valarie

[vj]

Are there phone books or the like available on line
for foreign countries;
when my grandfather died, he left a letter, unmailed,
to his sister.

Absolutely!
Here's one:
white pages

Cognome o nome Azienda
Name here

Dove
Location here

Click red button Cerca

[vj]

What does non-immigrant alien mean?
On the 1913 manifest page one, note the 'D' in the column
before her name.
Your grandmother claimed to be a US citizen.
Her father/husband may have naturalized.
manifest markings guide

note: edited for clarity

[TheresaM]

All I can say to everyone is thank you - I can't say it enough. My mom will be thrilled, as I am. I'll definitely let you know how I progress. You're all wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!

[vj]

Looks like we may have a maiden name for
your great-grandmother?

possible 1906 manifest
5 Dec 1906 SS Roma Naples to NY
line 11
Luigi Chiantella, 47? (abt 1859)
- widower
- last residence Crognaleto
- destination Niagara Falls
- joining his brother-in-law ?? Berardino?
- born in Crognaleto

possible this was his wife's brother, but not necessarily...
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edit: added
possible brother-in-law manifest
still can't make out his first name...
may be Giustiniano (Justinian)

possibly related 1901 manifest
25 Nov 1901 SS Gergovia Naples to NY
line 13
Guistincan Berardino, 42 (abt 1859)
- single
- last residence Crognaleto
- destination NY
- joining a brother-in-law at 2 Elizabeth St?

note line 12 sailing with Francesco Toppi

[Biff83]

Great finds Valarie!

TheresaM,

With your family roster expanding, you might want to use the free forms and/or program available at the Family History Center to help keep your data organized.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Home/We ... mation.asp

Once you've organized your infromation, if you're interested in researching Italian records, the Crognaleto records from 1809 to 1910 are available on microfilm which can be rented and viewed at a local center. I'm pretty sure that records for Cesacastina since it was a subdivision of Crognaleto will be included.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... ato+civile++

[TheresaM]

Thank you - that's definitely my next step. Is there a waiting period to rent films; do they need to request them from somewhere else?

[vj]

Interesting detained page for the
23 Apr 1909 manifest
arrived 12 May 1909

detained page
LPC (likely public charge)
Wards of #10 (De Angelis Nicodemo)
released in one day, on 13 May

Chiantella, Maria & 2 sis & bro, 18 (abt 1890-1)
Itala, 14 (abt 1894-5)
Italo, 10 (abt 1898-9)
Aida, 7 (abt 1901-2)

(next line)
De Angelis Nicodemo, 22 (abt 1886)
(note: he is listed on the original manifest page earlier in the post)

a guide to these manifest markings
guide to detained page

[Biff83]

Here's a link to locate the nearest Family History Center.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... et_fhc.asp

After you've located the nearest FHC, you can have the local FHC request the film(s) you want. Each roll costs around $5.75 for a month's rental and can be viewed at the local center. I believe turnaround time for the microfilm to arrive is about two to three weeks.

Get yourself organized first and read some background information on how to interpret the documents before you order the microfilm. You might want to begin by ordering one or two of the later microfilm rolls and work your way backwards.

[TheresaM]

The detained page is really interesting. I wonder who Nicodemo might be -maybe a brother of Carmine?

[Biff83]

The detained page is really interesting. I wonder who Nicodemo might be -maybe a brother of Carmine?

Probably not if you know for sure Carmine's father's name was Emidio. A cousin perhaps? A friend--last name is De Angelis not D'Angelo.

edited--using Steve Morse search engine for town beginning with "crog" found both De Angelis and D'Angelo records

Here's a possible 1907 manifest for a Daniela D'Angelo going to join brother Nicodemo, line 17.

Daniel D'Angelo, age 19
Last residence, Crognaleto
Place of birth, Crognaleto
Destination, Niagara Falls NY to join brother Nicodemo D'Angelo at 192? 20th St.

Page 1
http://ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_wei ... &line=0017

Page 2
http://ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_wei ... &line=0017

[TheresaM]

His father's name was definitely Emidio; I'll ask my mom about Nicodemo or Daniela. Hopefully she might remember if they lived nearby.

[Biff83]

1909 ship manifest for the Pasquale D'Angelo family from Cesacastina going to Niagara Falls, note 2 page manifest

Husband Pasquale, wife Eugenia, and daughter Giulia
All last residence, Cesacastina
All place of birth, Cesacastina
Nearest relative in Italy, Pasquale's father Antonio
Destination, Niagara Falls to join Pasquale's brother Daniele

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 1625130218

[TheresaM]

If it's the same family, maybe Antonio and Carmine's father, Emidio, were brothers. More questions for mom.......